On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 03:11:50PM +0100, Sylvain CANOINE wrote:> ----- Mail original ----- > > De: "Jonathan Billings" <billings at negate.org> > > Maybe you're not aware of it, but there are a LOT of things that > > systemd fixes that people are happy about. > Like what ? I don't remember there were as many errors to fix before > systemd appeared.I suggest reading the previous emails (SOME OF WHICH YOU REPLIED TO) that listed many of the features people are happy about. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
Jonathan Billings wrote:>> > Maybe you're not >> > aware of it, but there are a LOT of things that systemd fixes that >> > people are happy about.>> Like what ? I don't remember there were as many errors to fix before >> systemd appeared.> I suggest reading the previous emails (SOME OF WHICH YOU REPLIED TO) > that listed many of the features people are happy about.I don't take a position in the systemd argument, but you said that systemd fixes lots of problems. It is perfectly reasonable to ask you to name one of these problems, perhaps the one you think is most important. I would say exactly the same to anyone who said systemd causes lots of problems, without specifying any. -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin
> I don't take a position in the systemd argument, > but you said that systemd fixes lots of problems. > It is perfectly reasonable to ask you to name one of these problems, > perhaps the one you think is most important.Compare any average sysv init script with a systemd unit file. The magnitude of gross bash required to do what systemd elegantly accomplishes with a mere few configuration directives in a more reliable way is enough for me. Personally, I think systemd is the single greatest accomplishment Linux has had in so long I can't recall. jlc
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 02:30:15PM +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:> Jonathan Billings wrote: > > >> > Maybe you're not > >> > aware of it, but there are a LOT of things that systemd fixes that > >> > people are happy about. > > >> Like what ? I don't remember there were as many errors to fix before > >> systemd appeared. > > > I suggest reading the previous emails (SOME OF WHICH YOU REPLIED TO) > > that listed many of the features people are happy about. > > I don't take a position in the systemd argument, > but you said that systemd fixes lots of problems. > It is perfectly reasonable to ask you to name one of these problems, > perhaps the one you think is most important.Well, here's a great one. I agree with Matthew: https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2016-January/157399.html Note who responded to that message. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>