Kai, It is a reality, but when you look at the RHEL target audience, it's not exactly hip devs deploying Docker in the cloud. Big corps, banks and the like have a very slow development cycle and long term support is absolutely crucial, software needs to run for years on end without glitches, without interruptions, in a very predictable manner etc. For the aforementioned devs I think the best answer are the software collections, that or just use a different distribution. It is what it is. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro ----- Original Message -----> From: "Kai Schaetzl" <maillists at conactive.com> > To: centos at centos.org > Sent: Thursday, 22 October, 2015 17:33:33 > Subject: Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers> Nux! wrote on Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:27:26 +0100 (BST): > >> It's irrelevant in this case that PHP 5.3 is EOL. It will continue >> to be supported by Red Hat with security patches. > > Exactly. > Nevertheless, PHP 5.6 is not "bleeding edge" as someone else said. 5.5 and > 5.6 are really state of the art and often necessary to install certain > software packages or for some functionality. The packages provided by RH > are much too fast outdated or have other problems. It's a reality. > > Kai > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
El 22/10/2015 a las 01:40 p.m., Nux! escribi?:> Kai, > > It is a reality, but when you look at the RHEL target audience, it's not exactly hip devs deploying Docker in the cloud. > Big corps, banks and the like have a very slow development cycle and long term support is absolutely crucial, software needs to run for years on end without glitches, without interruptions, in a very predictable manner etc. > > For the aforementioned devs I think the best answer are the software collections, that or just use a different distribution. It is what it is. > > > LucianLucian, they also include the newer versions. The case of banks, who need specially PHP version 5.3, are a slim 0.01% of php users, the rest of the mortals, like me, who needs a simple webmail like horde running, have problems because the rest of the world is not developing any more with php 5.3 compatibility in mind Saludos, Juan> > -- > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! > > Nux! > www.nux.ro > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kai Schaetzl" <maillists at conactive.com> >> To: centos at centos.org >> Sent: Thursday, 22 October, 2015 17:33:33 >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers > >> Nux! wrote on Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:27:26 +0100 (BST): >> >>> It's irrelevant in this case that PHP 5.3 is EOL. It will continue >>> to be supported by Red Hat with security patches. >> >> Exactly. >> Nevertheless, PHP 5.6 is not "bleeding edge" as someone else said. 5.5 and >> 5.6 are really state of the art and often necessary to install certain >> software packages or for some functionality. The packages provided by RH >> are much too fast outdated or have other problems. It's a reality. >> >> Kai >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
On 10/22/2015 11:50 AM, Juan Bernhard wrote:> > El 22/10/2015 a las 01:40 p.m., Nux! escribi?: >> Kai, >> >> It is a reality, but when you look at the RHEL target audience, it's >> not exactly hip devs deploying Docker in the cloud. >> Big corps, banks and the like have a very slow development cycle and >> long term support is absolutely crucial, software needs to run for >> years on end without glitches, without interruptions, in a very >> predictable manner etc. >> >> For the aforementioned devs I think the best answer are the software >> collections, that or just use a different distribution. It is what it is. >> >> >> Lucian > > Lucian, they also include the newer versions. The case of banks, who > need specially PHP version 5.3, are a slim 0.01% of php users, the rest > of the mortals, like me, who needs a simple webmail like horde running, > have problems because the rest of the world is not developing any more > with php 5.3 compatibility in mind > > Saludos, Juan >Correct .. but that is not who RHEL, CentOS, Ubuntu (LTS), or SLES type distros are for. That is what Fedora, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu, Debian, Linux Mint and any other number of "Bleeding Edge" distros are for. If you want latest and greatest .. well, then use latest and greatest. If you want enterprise, then use CentOS.>> >> -- >> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! >> >> Nux! >> www.nux.ro >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kai Schaetzl" <maillists at conactive.com> >>> To: centos at centos.org >>> Sent: Thursday, 22 October, 2015 17:33:33 >>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers >> >>> Nux! wrote on Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:27:26 +0100 (BST): >>> >>>> It's irrelevant in this case that PHP 5.3 is EOL. It will continue >>>> to be supported by Red Hat with security patches. >>> >>> Exactly. >>> Nevertheless, PHP 5.6 is not "bleeding edge" as someone else said. >>> 5.5 and >>> 5.6 are really state of the art and often necessary to install certain >>> software packages or for some functionality. The packages provided by RH >>> are much too fast outdated or have other problems. It's a reality. >>> >>> Kai-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20151022/31a5eb1c/attachment-0001.sig>