On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 19:19 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> Just to make it clear: I recommended the book itself without pointing to > any source of it, and when pirate copy was mentioned by somebody else, I > had to say I do not recommend that source and would recommend to buy the > book on amazon.The person asserting the copy was "pirated" (meaning stolen) has no proof it was stolen. Just because someone jumps up and down shouting various things, can not in law make any of those things a fact. To prove something one needs FACTS which is also known as evidence. No evidence exists that the copy was stolen. Justice depends on factual information not people inventing "facts" without proof. If I claimed you were Bill Gates' brother, would that actually make you Bill Gates' brother ? -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Je suis Charlie.
On Tue, February 10, 2015 7:36 pm, Always Learning wrote:> > On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 19:19 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > >> Just to make it clear: I recommended the book itself without pointing to >> any source of it, and when pirate copy was mentioned by somebody else, I >> had to say I do not recommend that source and would recommend to buy the >> book on amazon.Indeed I should have said "allegedly pirated" not just "pirated". As I don't care to go into details if it is or it isn't. I also would recommend to finish this discussion and those who feel so get themselves some fundamental book and go ahead with reading it. Which I'm going to do myself (there are things I need to read...) Valeri> > The person asserting the copy was "pirated" (meaning stolen) has no > proof it was stolen. Just because someone jumps up and down shouting > various things, can not in law make any of those things a fact. > > To prove something one needs FACTS which is also known as evidence. No > evidence exists that the copy was stolen. Justice depends on factual > information not people inventing "facts" without proof. If I claimed > you were Bill Gates' brother, would that actually make you Bill Gates' > brother ? > > > -- > Regards, > > Paul. > England, EU. Je suis Charlie. > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 21:32 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> Indeed I should have said "allegedly pirated" not just "pirated". As I > don't care to go into details if it is or it isn't. I also would recommend > to finish this discussion and those who feel so get themselves some > fundamental book and go ahead with reading it. Which I'm going to do > myself (there are things I need to read...)On my desk I have a copy of 'The Book'. I got it free of all costs. It is not mine. I did not buy it or otherwise make a payment to possess it. It has the same copyright notice inside. It does not state "Pirate Copy" anywhere on the covers or inside. Hopefully I am lawfully allow to read it ? Before an unnecessary riot starts perhaps I should mention I've borrowed 'The Book' from a public library :-) -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Je suis Charlie.