On Thu, February 5, 2015 9:34 am, Always Learning wrote:> > On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 09:51 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: > >> On 02/04/2015 07:55 PM, Always Learning wrote: >> > Rent ? That costs money. Just crack open some Windoze machines and do >> > it for free. That is what many hackers do. >> >> Those crackers who build these botnets are the ones who rent out botnet >> time to people who just was to get the work done. There is a large >> market in botnet time. > > Surely its time for the Feds to arrest and change them ? > >> > Is this safe enough ? >> > >> > wac4140SoeTer'#621strAAt0918;@@ >> > >> > >> Yes, it is. > > Gee thanks. I'll use it for root on every server ;-) >I know this is joke. Yet (in a slim chance someone out there can follow it with seriousness) I would strongly suggest: Don't do it. Don't use anything as any sort of password which was ever publicized in any shape. Putting it in a search line of any search engine, or it passing it over to any (but your own) password strength checker has (fair in my estimate!) chance of that to be logged, added into the database, etc. I almost which to yell: people use your brain ! ;-) I know, I know, everybody is reasonable, it is just I didn't have my coffee yet... Valeri> > -- > Regards, > > Paul. > England, EU. Je suis Charlie. > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 09:41 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> >> > wac4140SoeTer'#621strAAt0918;@@ > > > > Gee thanks. I'll use it for root on every server ;-)> I know this is joke. Yet (in a slim chance someone out there can follow it > with seriousness) I would strongly suggest: > > Don't do it. Don't use anything as any sort of password which was ever > publicized in any shape. Putting it in a search line of any search engine, > or it passing it over to any (but your own) password strength checker has > (fair in my estimate!) chance of that to be logged, added into the > database, etc. I almost which to yell: people use your brain ! ;-)Yes never ever, not once, let any person or any search engine etc. know too much about your specific security arrangements. Generalise with principles but always withhold the precise specifics. The nasty people out there are trying to steal your data and wreck your systems. They have no scruples. There is a real cyber war going-on and your systems are their targets.> I know, I know, everybody is reasonable, it is just I didn't have my > coffee yet...Your logic is amazingly good for a coffee drinker. -- Regards, Paul. Tea drinking Centos fan.
On Thu, February 5, 2015 10:08 am, Always Learning wrote:> > On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 09:41 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> >> > wac4140SoeTer'#621strAAt0918;@@ >> > >> > Gee thanks. I'll use it for root on every server ;-) > >> I know this is joke. Yet (in a slim chance someone out there can follow >> it >> with seriousness) I would strongly suggest: >> >> Don't do it. Don't use anything as any sort of password which was ever >> publicized in any shape. Putting it in a search line of any search >> engine, >> or it passing it over to any (but your own) password strength checker >> has >> (fair in my estimate!) chance of that to be logged, added into the >> database, etc. I almost which to yell: people use your brain ! ;-) > > Yes never ever, not once, let any person or any search engine etc. know > too much about your specific security arrangements. Generalise with > principles but always withhold the precise specifics. > > The nasty people out there are trying to steal your data and wreck your > systems. They have no scruples. There is a real cyber war going-on and > your systems are their targets. > >> I know, I know, everybody is reasonable, it is just I didn't have my >> coffee yet... > > Your logic is amazingly good for a coffee drinker. >No, I wasn't born here though I live here, so I don't take to my heart any jokes about people living in one of the colonies you lost ;-) Just stealing it from some movie I like. Still didn't have chance for my morning coffee yet (which I deserve: I was working hard all morning). Don't take me too seriously too, just get nice cup of tea (or wait till morning for it) ;-) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Thu, February 5, 2015 12:45 pm, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Thu, February 5, 2015 10:08 am, Always Learning wrote: > <snip> >>>> I know, I know, everybody is reasonable, it is just I didn't have my >>>> coffee yet... >>> >>> Your logic is amazingly good for a coffee drinker. >>> >> No, I wasn't born here though I live here, so I don't take to my heart >> any >> jokes about people living in one of the colonies you lost ;-) Just >> stealing it from some movie I like. Still didn't have chance for my >> morning coffee yet (which I deserve: I was working hard all morning). >> Don't take me too seriously too, just get nice cup of tea (or wait till >> morning for it) ;-) > > Get in, 09:00: tea, British-strength*, w/ milk > Noon, ditto, w/ lunch. > Mid-afternoon, *strong* (not "office") coffee (Cafe Bustelo), vs. the > mid-afternoon sleepiness.Yes. Using my brother's joke, whole life is struggle: before lunch with hunger, after lunch with sleepiness... Valeri> > First full-time job, I went from 6 or so cups of office coffee to my own > mint tea in six months.... USan-born. > > mark > > * Per George Orwell's mid-forties essay: at least 4-5 min of brewing with > boiling water.** > > ** From an article in the Guardian a few months ago: "Sorry, Americans, > the teabag has to actually be *in* the mug, not merely in the room." >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++