On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:> > Welcome to ipad generation folks!Yes, but Apple knows enough to stay out of the server business where stability matters - and they are more into selling content than code anyway. Client side things do need to deal with mobility these days - reconnecting automatically after sleep/wakeup and handling network connection changes transparently, but those things don't need to break existing usage. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com
On Mon, December 29, 2014 10:37 am, Les Mikesell wrote:> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Valeri Galtsev > <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: >> >> Welcome to ipad generation folks! > > Yes, but Apple knows enough to stay out of the server business where > stability mattersNot exactly. They claim they are in server business forever. There is something called MacOS Server. Which is an incarnation of their OS with some scripts added. But (apart from that that thing doesn't have documentation - "click here, then click there... and you are done" doesn't count for such) they do not maintain its consistency for any decent period of time. That is, as soon as they release next version of the system you can say goodbye to some of the components of your MacOS Server. So, as far as "clever Apple" is concerned, I disagree with you. Unless we both agree they are clever enough to be able to fool their customers ;-) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:> > So, as far as "clever Apple" is concerned, I disagree with you. Unless we > both agree they are clever enough to be able to fool their customers ;-) >You can't disagree with the fact that they make a lot of money. They do it by targeting consumers without technical experience or need for backwards compatibility to preserve the value of that experience. That's obviously a big market. But whenever someone else tries to copy that model it is a loss for all of the existing work and experience that built on earlier versions and needs compatibility to continue. For what it's worth, I haven't found it to be that much harder to find Mac ported versions of complex open source software (e.g. vlc) than for RHEL/Centos - they all break things pretty badly on major upgrades, and there is usually just one OSX version needed versus a bazillion linux flavors with arbitrary differences). -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com