On 01/12/14 18:36, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:> On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 22:04 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >> On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 18:50 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >>> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:50:17 -0600 >>> >>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:07:47 -0600 >>> Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >>> >>>> I also changed the boot level to 5. >>> >>> Do you mean the runlevel? If so, are you sure that you changed it correctly? >>> >>> Centos 7 doesn't use runlevels set in inittab like previous versions did. I see that fact is actually noted in /etc/inittab, along with the expected way to do it. >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Frank, >>> >>> Yes, you are correct, I changed the run level and not boot level to 5 >>> and did so by using the command : >>> >>> ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target >>> >>> Also, I appreciate everybody's input on this, but I am still at a loss >>> as to how to fix this. Without being able to reboot, it sure makes the >>> set up difficult. >>> >>> Does anyone else have any ideas?? >>> >>> Greg >>> >> >> I have tried some additional changes that have not made a difference. >> >> I disabled selinux - that made no difference >> I stopped and disabled firewalld - that made no difference. >> >> I can boot this machine after I turn it off and then back on, but when I >> try to do a shutdown now -r, the system hangs right after picking the OS >> that is desired "CentOS Linux..........". >> >> After the machine is turned off the boot process occurs normally after >> this choice and I get two penguins in the upper left hand corner, and >> the boot proceeds. When I do a shutdown now -r, I do not get to the >> penguins and the machine hangs forever until I either unplug it or press >> the power button for 5 seconds. >> >> Any help would be appreciated!!! >> >> Greg >> > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Everyone, > > I did not get much of a response on the list so I filed a bug report. I > wanted to document the bug report for anyone else that is having a > reboot problem. > > https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7949 > > > Greg Ennis >Seems little point in filing a bug report when you have no idea what the issue is. Bugs are not a means of troubleshooting nor a support forum. However, you did get my attention so lets see if we can stimulate some further interest in troubleshooting this. So the system will perform a cold reboot, but not a warm reboot. Sounds like a hardware issue to me. Any clues in /var/log/messages ? Tried updating the BIOS? Any hardware firmwares being loaded?
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 18:50:42 +0000 Ned Slider wrote:> So the system will perform a cold reboot, but not a warm reboot. Sounds > like a hardware issue to me.I had a computer that did that a few years ago. It would reboot about every third time you started it up, otherwise it would hang. Didn't bother me too much since I rarely rebooted it. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Frank Cox <theatre at melvilletheatre.com> wrote:> On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 18:50:42 +0000 > Ned Slider wrote: > >> So the system will perform a cold reboot, but not a warm reboot. Sounds >> like a hardware issue to me. > > I had a computer that did that a few years ago. It would reboot about every third time you started it up, otherwise it would hang. > > Didn't bother me too much since I rarely rebooted it.I'd recommend checking to see if there are any firmware updates for the system motherboard. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com
On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 18:50 +0000, Ned Slider wrote:> On 01/12/14 18:36, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 22:04 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > >> On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 18:50 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > >>> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:50:17 -0600 > >>> > >>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:07:47 -0600 > >>> Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > >>> > >>>> I also changed the boot level to 5. > >>> > >>> Do you mean the runlevel? If so, are you sure that you changed it correctly? > >>> > >>> Centos 7 doesn't use runlevels set in inittab like previous versions did. I see that fact is actually noted in /etc/inittab, along with the expected way to do it. > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> Frank, > >>> > >>> Yes, you are correct, I changed the run level and not boot level to 5 > >>> and did so by using the command : > >>> > >>> ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target > >>> > >>> Also, I appreciate everybody's input on this, but I am still at a loss > >>> as to how to fix this. Without being able to reboot, it sure makes the > >>> set up difficult. > >>> > >>> Does anyone else have any ideas?? > >>> > >>> Greg > >>> > >> > >> I have tried some additional changes that have not made a difference. > >> > >> I disabled selinux - that made no difference > >> I stopped and disabled firewalld - that made no difference. > >> > >> I can boot this machine after I turn it off and then back on, but when I > >> try to do a shutdown now -r, the system hangs right after picking the OS > >> that is desired "CentOS Linux..........". > >> > >> After the machine is turned off the boot process occurs normally after > >> this choice and I get two penguins in the upper left hand corner, and > >> the boot proceeds. When I do a shutdown now -r, I do not get to the > >> penguins and the machine hangs forever until I either unplug it or press > >> the power button for 5 seconds. > >> > >> Any help would be appreciated!!! > >> > >> Greg > >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Everyone, > > > > I did not get much of a response on the list so I filed a bug report. I > > wanted to document the bug report for anyone else that is having a > > reboot problem. > > > > https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7949 > > > > > > Greg Ennis > > > > Seems little point in filing a bug report when you have no idea what the > issue is. Bugs are not a means of troubleshooting nor a support forum. > However, you did get my attention so lets see if we can stimulate some > further interest in troubleshooting this. > > So the system will perform a cold reboot, but not a warm reboot. Sounds > like a hardware issue to me. > > Any clues in /var/log/messages ? > > Tried updating the BIOS? > > Any hardware firmwares being loaded? > > > _______________________________________________Ned, Thanks for your response!!! Sorry, if posting a bug report was the wrong venue !!! There are no messages in the message logs that I could identify as problems, but the system fails before the OS is active. I have not updated the BIOS, and do not know how to do this... but this is my testing machine so I am more than open to doing this. I am using a Gateway SX2855-UB12P. I will take a look at the Gateway site; if there are tutorials you could point me to I would appreciate it. The only hardware that has been added has been a usb ethernet connection so that I have the motherboard nic card and the usb nic connection. I wanted to use this setup to test the firewalld capabilities for a network gateway. The machine does not have a monitor, and is without a mouse or keyboard. It should be noted that this machine previously had CentOS 6 with a 3T Seagate drive that worked without a problem, but recently developed a disc failure. I replaced the drive with a 4T WesternDigital drive and installed CentOs 7.0 from a DVD. Thanks again for your help!!! Greg
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 12:34 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:> On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 18:50 +0000, Ned Slider wrote: > > On 01/12/14 18:36, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 22:04 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > >> On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 18:50 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > >>> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:50:17 -0600 > > >>> > > >>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:07:47 -0600 > > >>> Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I also changed the boot level to 5. > > >>> > > >>> Do you mean the runlevel? If so, are you sure that you changed it correctly? > > >>> > > >>> Centos 7 doesn't use runlevels set in inittab like previous versions did. I see that fact is actually noted in /etc/inittab, along with the expected way to do it. > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> > > >>> Frank, > > >>> > > >>> Yes, you are correct, I changed the run level and not boot level to 5 > > >>> and did so by using the command : > > >>> > > >>> ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target > > >>> > > >>> Also, I appreciate everybody's input on this, but I am still at a loss > > >>> as to how to fix this. Without being able to reboot, it sure makes the > > >>> set up difficult. > > >>> > > >>> Does anyone else have any ideas?? > > >>> > > >>> Greg > > >>> > > >> > > >> I have tried some additional changes that have not made a difference. > > >> > > >> I disabled selinux - that made no difference > > >> I stopped and disabled firewalld - that made no difference. > > >> > > >> I can boot this machine after I turn it off and then back on, but when I > > >> try to do a shutdown now -r, the system hangs right after picking the OS > > >> that is desired "CentOS Linux..........". > > >> > > >> After the machine is turned off the boot process occurs normally after > > >> this choice and I get two penguins in the upper left hand corner, and > > >> the boot proceeds. When I do a shutdown now -r, I do not get to the > > >> penguins and the machine hangs forever until I either unplug it or press > > >> the power button for 5 seconds. > > >> > > >> Any help would be appreciated!!! > > >> > > >> Greg > > >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Everyone, > > > > > > I did not get much of a response on the list so I filed a bug report. I > > > wanted to document the bug report for anyone else that is having a > > > reboot problem. > > > > > > https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7949 > > > > > > > > > Greg Ennis > > > > > > > Seems little point in filing a bug report when you have no idea what the > > issue is. Bugs are not a means of troubleshooting nor a support forum. > > However, you did get my attention so lets see if we can stimulate some > > further interest in troubleshooting this. > > > > So the system will perform a cold reboot, but not a warm reboot. Sounds > > like a hardware issue to me. > > > > Any clues in /var/log/messages ? > > > > Tried updating the BIOS? > > > > Any hardware firmwares being loaded? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ned, > > Thanks for your response!!! > > Sorry, if posting a bug report was the wrong venue !!! > > There are no messages in the message logs that I could identify as > problems, but the system fails before the OS is active. > > I have not updated the BIOS, and do not know how to do this... but this > is my testing machine so I am more than open to doing this. I am using > a Gateway SX2855-UB12P. I will take a look at the Gateway site; if > there are tutorials you could point me to I would appreciate it. > > The only hardware that has been added has been a usb ethernet connection > so that I have the motherboard nic card and the usb nic connection. I > wanted to use this setup to test the firewalld capabilities for a > network gateway. The machine does not have a monitor, and is without a > mouse or keyboard. > > It should be noted that this machine previously had CentOS 6 with a 3T > Seagate drive that worked without a problem, but recently developed a > disc failure. I replaced the drive with a 4T WesternDigital drive and > installed CentOs 7.0 from a DVD. > > Thanks again for your help!!! > > Greg >Ned, I have printed the bios of this machine below. I reviewed the American Megatrends website, but have not identified whether an upgrade has been created for this bios, or how to install it. This machine was a Windows7 machine originally with a 500G drive, that I removed and replaced with the 3T Seagate drive that failed. [root at HmWk ~]# dmidecode -t bios -q BIOS Information Vendor: American Megatrends Inc. Version: P01-B2 Release Date: 08/16/2011 Address: 0xF0000 Runtime Size: 64 kB ROM Size: 4096 kB Characteristics: PCI is supported BIOS is upgradeable BIOS shadowing is allowed Boot from CD is supported Selectable boot is supported BIOS ROM is socketed EDD is supported 5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h) 3.5"/720 kB floppy services are supported (int 13h) 3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h) Print screen service is supported (int 5h) 8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h) Serial services are supported (int 14h) Printer services are supported (int 17h) ACPI is supported USB legacy is supported BIOS boot specification is supported Targeted content distribution is supported UEFI is supported BIOS Revision: 4.6 BIOS Language Information Language Description Format: Long Installable Languages: 1 en|US|iso8859-1 Currently Installed Language: en|US|iso8859-1 Greg
On 02/12/14 18:34, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:> On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 18:50 +0000, Ned Slider wrote: >> On 01/12/14 18:36, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >>> On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 22:04 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >>>> On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 18:50 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >>>>> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:50:17 -0600 >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:07:47 -0600 >>>>> Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I also changed the boot level to 5. >>>>> >>>>> Do you mean the runlevel? If so, are you sure that you changed it correctly? >>>>> >>>>> Centos 7 doesn't use runlevels set in inittab like previous versions did. I see that fact is actually noted in /etc/inittab, along with the expected way to do it. >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Frank, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, you are correct, I changed the run level and not boot level to 5 >>>>> and did so by using the command : >>>>> >>>>> ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target >>>>> >>>>> Also, I appreciate everybody's input on this, but I am still at a loss >>>>> as to how to fix this. Without being able to reboot, it sure makes the >>>>> set up difficult. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone else have any ideas?? >>>>> >>>>> Greg >>>>> >>>> >>>> I have tried some additional changes that have not made a difference. >>>> >>>> I disabled selinux - that made no difference >>>> I stopped and disabled firewalld - that made no difference. >>>> >>>> I can boot this machine after I turn it off and then back on, but when I >>>> try to do a shutdown now -r, the system hangs right after picking the OS >>>> that is desired "CentOS Linux..........". >>>> >>>> After the machine is turned off the boot process occurs normally after >>>> this choice and I get two penguins in the upper left hand corner, and >>>> the boot proceeds. When I do a shutdown now -r, I do not get to the >>>> penguins and the machine hangs forever until I either unplug it or press >>>> the power button for 5 seconds. >>>> >>>> Any help would be appreciated!!! >>>> >>>> Greg >>>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Everyone, >>> >>> I did not get much of a response on the list so I filed a bug report. I >>> wanted to document the bug report for anyone else that is having a >>> reboot problem. >>> >>> https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7949 >>> >>> >>> Greg Ennis >>> >> >> Seems little point in filing a bug report when you have no idea what the >> issue is. Bugs are not a means of troubleshooting nor a support forum. >> However, you did get my attention so lets see if we can stimulate some >> further interest in troubleshooting this. >> >> So the system will perform a cold reboot, but not a warm reboot. Sounds >> like a hardware issue to me. >> >> Any clues in /var/log/messages ? >> >> Tried updating the BIOS? >> >> Any hardware firmwares being loaded? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > > Ned, > > Thanks for your response!!! > > Sorry, if posting a bug report was the wrong venue !!! > > There are no messages in the message logs that I could identify as > problems, but the system fails before the OS is active. > > I have not updated the BIOS, and do not know how to do this... but this > is my testing machine so I am more than open to doing this. I am using > a Gateway SX2855-UB12P. I will take a look at the Gateway site; if > there are tutorials you could point me to I would appreciate it.You'd have to check the Gateway website to see if a bios update is available to download for your model. Instructions are normally included / available.> > The only hardware that has been added has been a usb ethernet connection > so that I have the motherboard nic card and the usb nic connection.Just to eliminate the easy option first, does unplugging the USB ethernet adapter (before rebooting) solve the problem?> wanted to use this setup to test the firewalld capabilities for a > network gateway. The machine does not have a monitor, and is without a > mouse or keyboard. > > It should be noted that this machine previously had CentOS 6 with a 3T > Seagate drive that worked without a problem, but recently developed a > disc failure. I replaced the drive with a 4T WesternDigital drive and > installed CentOs 7.0 from a DVD. >I wouldn't think the drive swap would make a difference.> Thanks again for your help!!! > > Greg >
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 16:32 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:> On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 20:23 +0000, Ned Slider wrote: > > On 02/12/14 18:34, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > > On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 18:50 +0000, Ned Slider wrote: > > >> On 01/12/14 18:36, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > >>> On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 22:04 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > >>>> On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 18:50 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > >>>>> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:50:17 -0600 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:07:47 -0600 > > >>>>> Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> I also changed the boot level to 5. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Do you mean the runlevel? If so, are you sure that you changed it correctly? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Centos 7 doesn't use runlevels set in inittab like previous versions did. I see that fact is actually noted in /etc/inittab, along with the expected way to do it. > > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Frank, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yes, you are correct, I changed the run level and not boot level to 5 > > >>>>> and did so by using the command : > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Also, I appreciate everybody's input on this, but I am still at a loss > > >>>>> as to how to fix this. Without being able to reboot, it sure makes the > > >>>>> set up difficult. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Does anyone else have any ideas?? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Greg > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> I have tried some additional changes that have not made a difference. > > >>>> > > >>>> I disabled selinux - that made no difference > > >>>> I stopped and disabled firewalld - that made no difference. > > >>>> > > >>>> I can boot this machine after I turn it off and then back on, but when I > > >>>> try to do a shutdown now -r, the system hangs right after picking the OS > > >>>> that is desired "CentOS Linux..........". > > >>>> > > >>>> After the machine is turned off the boot process occurs normally after > > >>>> this choice and I get two penguins in the upper left hand corner, and > > >>>> the boot proceeds. When I do a shutdown now -r, I do not get to the > > >>>> penguins and the machine hangs forever until I either unplug it or press > > >>>> the power button for 5 seconds. > > >>>> > > >>>> Any help would be appreciated!!! > > >>>> > > >>>> Greg > > >>>> > > >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> > > >>> Everyone, > > >>> > > >>> I did not get much of a response on the list so I filed a bug report. I > > >>> wanted to document the bug report for anyone else that is having a > > >>> reboot problem. > > >>> > > >>> https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7949 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Greg Ennis > > >>> > > >> > > >> Seems little point in filing a bug report when you have no idea what the > > >> issue is. Bugs are not a means of troubleshooting nor a support forum. > > >> However, you did get my attention so lets see if we can stimulate some > > >> further interest in troubleshooting this. > > >> > > >> So the system will perform a cold reboot, but not a warm reboot. Sounds > > >> like a hardware issue to me. > > >> > > >> Any clues in /var/log/messages ? > > >> > > >> Tried updating the BIOS? > > >> > > >> Any hardware firmwares being loaded? > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Ned, > > > > > > Thanks for your response!!! > > > > > > Sorry, if posting a bug report was the wrong venue !!! > > > > > > There are no messages in the message logs that I could identify as > > > problems, but the system fails before the OS is active. > > > > > > I have not updated the BIOS, and do not know how to do this... but this > > > is my testing machine so I am more than open to doing this. I am using > > > a Gateway SX2855-UB12P. I will take a look at the Gateway site; if > > > there are tutorials you could point me to I would appreciate it. > > > > You'd have to check the Gateway website to see if a bios update is > > available to download for your model. Instructions are normally included > > / available. > > > > > > > > The only hardware that has been added has been a usb ethernet connection > > > so that I have the motherboard nic card and the usb nic connection. > > > > > > Just to eliminate the easy option first, does unplugging the USB > > ethernet adapter (before rebooting) solve the problem? > > > > > > > wanted to use this setup to test the firewalld capabilities for a > > > network gateway. The machine does not have a monitor, and is without a > > > mouse or keyboard. > > > > > > It should be noted that this machine previously had CentOS 6 with a 3T > > > Seagate drive that worked without a problem, but recently developed a > > > disc failure. I replaced the drive with a 4T WesternDigital drive and > > > installed CentOs 7.0 from a DVD. > > > > > > > I wouldn't think the drive swap would make a difference. > > > > > Thanks again for your help!!! > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > ------------------------- >Ned, The USB ethernet adapter was a good thought, but removing it did not make a difference. I removed the adapter, rebooted with same failure, then manually turned off system and did a boot with the adapter unplugged, then did another reboot which had the same failure. It does not look like the adapter is the problem. I will take another look at the Gateway website. First search attempt did not result in anything productive, that is why I looked at the American Megatrends site which had a bios download tool, but it was for a windows machine. I am going to continue to look, I think my best choice would be to take another look at Gateway site. This machine worked perfectly under CentOS 6, I can still use it with CentOS 7, but it is a real pain to reboot. Greg