so whats the scoop on PHP53 for CentOS 5? I have a long running webserver, runs a bunch of mostly php+postgresql stuff, mostly hobby sites (clubs and local scout troops and such). has latest updates to php 5.2.10-xx but I want to install something thats insisting on php53. If I try and yum install php53, it says it conflicts with php-5.2.10 ... ok, do I remove the old PHP and install the one one? does that stand a reasonable chance of not blowing up in my face? -- john r pierce N 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast
On 10/15/2012 07:18 AM, John R Pierce wrote:> so whats the scoop on PHP53 for CentOS 5? > > I have a long running webserver, runs a bunch of mostly php+postgresql > stuff, mostly hobby sites (clubs and local scout troops and such). has > latest updates to php 5.2.10-xx but I want to install something thats > insisting on php53. If I try and yum install php53, it says it > conflicts with php-5.2.10 ... > > ok, do I remove the old PHP and install the one one? does that stand > a reasonable chance of not blowing up in my face?Iirc the php 5.3 packages from the IUS repo are the ones you need. Not sure if it's an update or parallel install (I just went to CentOS 6). There might be security and other implications when going from 5.2 to 5.3. Iirc php.net has some docs on this subject. Regards, Patrick
>> >does that stand a reasonable chance of not blowing up in my face? > where should be a problem? > your changed configs are saved as .rpmsave as everytime while deal with rpm >I discovered that one of my older websites flat out won't work with php 5.3 and requires a vey complex upgrade. meh. -- john r pierce N 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast
On 10/15/12 2:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:> any application which does not run years after 5.3 was released > and also a long time after 5.4 is released can be considered as > broken and insecure > > "requires a vey complex upgrade" > so you do not upgrade the application and ignore security-issues?get off that 'horse', it is an ass. the upgrade path would be to recreate the website from scratch with a different CMS, spending 100s of hours copying and reformatting old pages. its a hobby site, it works as is and I have better things to do with my time. In this case, the security exposures are purely if you allow untrusted users logins on this particular CMS. I limit authenticated user access strictly to a few trusted users (web editors), there are no exposures. from the perspective of an anonymous user, this particular website is purely static. as the server hasn't been hacked or defaced in 5 years, it appears my assumptions here are valid. -- john r pierce N 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast
On 10/15/12 10:35 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:> there are no exposures YOU KNOW aboutI could say exactly the same thing about *ANY* software, including 6.3.latest. your point? -- john r pierce N 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast
On 10/15/12 10:36 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:> php is not resposible that braindead idiots develop software > without any knowledge - i prove the opposite with more than > 250.000 lines of code brough without pain from PHP 4.1 to > PHP 5.4 without any real problemgee, want to re-implement this site for me? I'll give you 100% of my payment for it.... oh yeah, 100% of nothing is... yeah, nothing. oh well. -- john r pierce N 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast
On 10/14/12 10:18 PM, John R Pierce wrote:> I have a long running webserver, runs a bunch of mostly php+postgresql > stuff, mostly hobby sites (clubs and local scout troops and such). has > latest updates to php 5.2.10-xx but I want to install something thats > insisting on php53. If I try and yum install php53, it says it > conflicts with php-5.2.10 ...so, upon more digging, I figured out this php-5.2.10 had come from c5-testing or somethign, and was no longer there. I hooked up to IUS and installed their php52 as it turns out other stuff I'm running claims not to work with 5.3 without me oding a whole bunch of major upgrading/reimlementing of webpiles... so IUS set me up with 5.2.17 and I'm happy. The thing I was installing wanted at least 5.2.11 -- john r pierce N 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast