CentOS - Aug 2011 - OT: help with email list reading programs w/ best features to read the centos and other lists that can filter people etc

we need to filter out various peoples posts on this list

would some kind soul(s) please direct us in locating the best email list
reading programs w/ the best features to read the centos and other lists.

the CentOS list signal/noise ratio is so bad that we need something better
than just outlook like clients or whatever

appropriate windows and linux recommendations would be most appreciated

thank you in advance

 - rh

On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:46 PM, R - elists
wrote:
>
> we need to filter out various peoples posts on this list
>
> would some kind soul(s) please direct us in locating the best email list
> reading programs w/ the best features to read the centos and other lists.
It's not an email program but I think it has the best filtering 
capabilities of all - the brain.
>
> the CentOS list signal/noise ratio is so bad that we need something better
> than just outlook like clients or whatever
Huh? What signal/noise ratio? I don't see any of the usual "can't
be
bother to read manuals/to use google" suspects...unless you're 
complaining about our most recent top poster...
>
> appropriate windows and linux recommendations would be most appreciated
>
How about mutt as a client?

On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:46:53 -0700
R - elists wrote:
> we need to filter out various peoples posts on this list
> 
> would some kind soul(s) please direct us in locating the best email list
> reading programs w/ the best features to read the centos and other lists.
> 
> the CentOS list signal/noise ratio is so bad that we need something better
> than just outlook like clients or whatever
Hello Mr. Elists (or may I call you R?)

Most email clients are capable of filtering incoming mail by subject, sender,
and other fields.  I note that you are using MS Outlook and I have absolutely
no experience with that program, but any email client I've used in the past
several years has allowed filtering in some manner.

My personal favourite email client is Sylpheed (which is available for both
Linux and Windows -- you can find a pre-compiled Sylpheed rpm for Centos 5 and
Centos 6 on my website if you're interested) and it can easily be used to
filter and sort email by just about any field that you choose to use.

With Sylpheed, you can set it up to filter "Sender=Whoever" to
"Trash" or
"Delete from Server" if you want.  Just look under the Configuration -
Filter
Settings menu; it's pretty self-explanatory.

-- 
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Hello R,


On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:46:53 -0700 "R - elists" <lists07 at
abbacomm.net> wrote:
> 
> we need to filter out various peoples posts on this list
> 
> would some kind soul(s) please direct us in locating the best email list
> reading programs w/ the best features to read the centos and other lists.
> 
> the CentOS list signal/noise ratio is so bad that we need something better
> than just outlook like clients or whatever
> 
> appropriate windows and linux recommendations would be most appreciated
Claws Mail does that work for me for ages. Filtering (dispatching
mails, quick filtering view), tagging, coloring, etc..


Regards,

-- 
wwp
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On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:46:53 AM R - elists
wrote:
> we need to filter out various peoples posts on this list
> would some kind soul(s) please direct us in locating the best email list
> reading programs w/ the best features to read the centos and other lists.
While I use Kmail (which can do very powerful filtering based on a number of
criteria; I use the filters to folderize the list into its own CentOS folder, in
addition to plonking senders), Outlook's junk mail filter can be configured
to do what you're after.

Or, go to office.microsoft.com, and search for the phrase "Add a name to
the Blocked Senders List" and I think you'll find what you want.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 09:25:06 AM m.roth at 5-cent.us
wrote:
> Lamar Owen wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:46:53 AM R - elists wrote:
> <snip>
> > While I use Kmail (which can do very powerful filtering based on a
number
> <snip>
> So how is kmail these days? 
Kmail beats the Dickens out of me sometimes.... A tale of two mailreaders....
'It was the best of times, it was the worst of times...'

It's been better (in ways), and it's been worse (much worse).  The
Scalix integration quit working upon an upgrade to KDE4 (don't really miss
it that much), and if you do a large and long search, be sure to do a short one
before you quit kmail, as it will redo the search to populate the
'Searches' folder *every time you start* and not tell you that is what
it is doing; it just feels like it has hung, for however long the search may
take (and my mail store is, uh, 8.3GB currently) ...

At the KDE SC 4.6.x level, things are about as stable as they've ever been,
once you get Akonadi and Nepomuk operable.  But this is the primary reason
I'm somewhat loathe to go back down to KDE 4.3.4 in EL 6; I've forgotten
what was broken at that level, and I'm used to what is currently working in
F14.... which is partly why I'll periodically pop up and ask if anyone has
done a KDE 4.6.x repo for EL6...

I'm at the moment happy with 1.13.7 that ships with KDE SC 4.6.5.  It's
crashed the least of any kmail I've run, since a long time ago (I forget
just when I went to kmail (from Netscape Communicator), but it was, IIRC, in KDE
1.x days).  I've kept essentially the same mailstore the whole time; it is a
melange of maildir and mbox, depending upon how old the folder is... :-)

On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 09:34:48 AM Always Learning
wrote:
> Why not store them in a correspondence database ?  
Kmail is working towards full Akonadi integration, and the full 'semantic
desktop' paradigm is (or will be) available.

So it's already being done, to a degree, and in a very flexible manner. 
Currently it is a tad slow with my >1 million e-mails in my archive, but it
has been slower.  Much slower.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:46 PM, R - elists <lists07 at abbacomm.net>
wrote:
>
> we need to filter out various peoples posts on this list
>
> would some kind soul(s) please direct us in locating the best email list
> reading programs w/ the best features to read the centos and other lists.
>
> the CentOS list signal/noise ratio is so bad that we need something better
> than just outlook like clients or whatever
>
> appropriate windows and linux recommendations would be most appreciated
>
I didn't expect this, but I am beginning to like gmail's web interface
better than dedicated mail programs.  I used to use fetchmail to pull
it to an imap server that I managed and accessed from various clients
and my phone via imap, but for an assortment of reasons I want to
retire that server and recently have been accessing gmail directly
through imap, the gmail phone app, and the web interface, and after
configuring the options a bit the web interface seems to be winning.
It now has a fuzzy concept of 'important' mail that it can display
first, and its folder operations are conceptually more like tagging
where 'inbox' is just another tag, although from imap they appear as
typical folders.    The normal thing to do with disposed mail is to
'archive' it which puts it out of sight, but it still appears in
searches and threaded conversation view - and being google, they
obviously have better search capability than you are going to find in
your own mail client.  For me, the conceptual differences are more
than making up for what you lose in a web-based interface - and when
you want you can always use a real client via imap as long as you
don't subscribe to the massive 'all mail' folder that holds the
archive.  I don't do any pre-filtering or sorting since you can just
archive everything and still be able to find it in a search, but the
facility is there if you want it and the results appear the same via
multiple imap clients, the phone app, or the web interface.   And yes,
I know it is all just a ploy to get you to stay logged in all the time
in the browser so your google search queries are tied to your login as
well as your IP, but they are really, really good at it...

-- 
  Les Mikesell
    lesmikesell at gmail.com

--On Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:46 PM -0700 R - elists 
<lists07 at abbacomm.net> wrote:
> would some kind soul(s) please direct us in locating the best email list
> reading programs w/ the best features to read the centos and other lists.
My CentOS box is my mail server. It uses procmail as the delivery agent, so 
it honors the .procmailrc filter in every user's home directory. I use that 
to pre-deliver list mail to list-specific folders in my ~/mail hierarchy 
(~/Maildir if you use Maildir format) and then read the result with the 
Mulberry mail client and Dovecot as the IMAP server.

It should be straightforward to add additional filter rules to .procmailrc 
to either remove mail from selected senders or add flags that your email 
client would understand to hide or highlight. (I set the "important"
flag
to highlight messages from project administrators and messages that contain 
my address in the references headers (ie. replies to me).