Hi all, I downloaded latest CentOS 5.5 DVD i386 image from one of FTP's in a list. I've burned that image to DVD and created new DVD to use for fresh installations. Now when I install fresh CentOS 5.5 (in VM) I am getting info that there are 50 packages updates. This is ok when I have good internet speed (@work) but when I am home, this update takes a lot of time. I guess I can skip updates but I wasn't experiencing such annoyance with CentOS 5.4. My gues is that when CentOS 5.4 was finalized there is no updates to that DVD. Is there any suggestions ? -- Aleksandar dipl. ing. Stoisavljevic Software Developer mobile: +381 (0) 64 211 50 40 Web: http://www.staleksit.in.rs E-mail:staleks at gmail.com <E-mail%3Astaleks at gmail.com> SkypeId: staleks_ns Mail: Branislava Nusica 10, 21000 Novi Sad, Serbia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20100825/a54e924d/attachment-0002.html>
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:14:02PM +0200, Aleksandar Stoisavljevic wrote:> > This is ok when I have good internet speed (@work) but when I am home, this > update takes a lot of time.Welcome to life on the internet.> I guess I can skip updates but I wasn't experiencing such annoyance with > CentOS 5.4. My gues is that when > CentOS 5.4 was finalized there is no updates to that DVD.Why in the world would you opt to skip updates? How is updating your system an annoyance? 5.X are just point-in-time snapshots of CentOS 5 and all patches leading up to the time that 5.X was released. Updates are a continuing process that will occur for the lifetime of the release.> Is there any suggestions ?Yes, bite the bullet and update. John -- Anybody can win unless there happens to be a second entry. -- George Ade (1866 - 1944), American writer, newspaper columnist, and playwright -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20100825/05200e88/attachment-0002.sig>
On 8/25/10 7:14 AM, Aleksandar Stoisavljevic wrote:> Hi all, > > I downloaded latest CentOS 5.5 DVD i386 image from one of FTP's in a list. > > I've burned that image to DVD and created new DVD to use for fresh installations. > Now when I install fresh CentOS 5.5 (in VM) I am getting info that there are 50 > packages updates. > > This is ok when I have good internet speed (@work) but when I am home, this > update takes a lot of time. > > I guess I can skip updates but I wasn't experiencing such annoyance with CentOS > 5.4. My gues is that when > CentOS 5.4 was finalized there is no updates to that DVD. > > Is there any suggestions ?Updates are a good thing - they mean bugs and security issues are being fixed. If you like to baby-sit the update process, try it this way: yum install yum-downloadonly then you can: yum -y --downloadonly update and go away (or sleep) while the update rpms download. If this step doesn't complete you can restart it as many times as necessary and it won't actually install anything. After the downloads have completed, you can do yum -y update to install them and it will run quickly. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com
At Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:19:25 -0500 CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> wrote:> > > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:14:02PM +0200, Aleksandar Stoisavljevic wrote: > > > > This is ok when I have good internet speed (@work) but when I am home, this > > update takes a lot of time. > > Welcome to life on the internet. > > > I guess I can skip updates but I wasn't experiencing such annoyance with > > CentOS 5.4. My gues is that when > > CentOS 5.4 was finalized there is no updates to that DVD. > > Why in the world would you opt to skip updates? How is updating > your system an annoyance? > > 5.X are just point-in-time snapshots of CentOS 5 and all patches > leading up to the time that 5.X was released. Updates are a > continuing process that will occur for the lifetime of the > release. > > > Is there any suggestions ? > > Yes, bite the bullet and update. >The main problem is that yum is NOT well written to deal with a slow and *unreliable* dial-up interface -- it in fact behaves extremly poorly when used with dial-up (and no, it is just not possible for me to get a better internet connection at home -- dialup is *all* that is available where I live). It assumes that ANY network problems are due to a busy server and it switches to another server (and in the case of metadata, starts the download from the beginning!). *I* often find it better to use wget to snarf the repo metadata. I *also* use my laptop to *manually* download (using wget) the packages for my desktop machine (the two machines are different archs: the desktop is x86_64 and the laptop is a i686). Oh, and I remove up-to-date and yum's update deamon. Both are a waste of time. (I also removed Open Office, since it is too big to maintain on a dial-up system, esp. since *I* don't ever do 'word processing'.) I manually run 'yum check-update' from time to time (when is the centos updates digest going to resume on this list?).> > > > > John >-- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! Deepwoods Software -- Linux Installation and Administration http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database heller at deepsoft.com -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk
> My 'work' is at home (dialup). The local library is only good for > about 1.5mbits/sec (about 150kbytes/sec). I don't have enough free > disk space for a full repo on either my laptop or my desktop.While not currently supported by the main CentOS project (AFAIK), there are presto repos out there for CentOS 5. Yum presto, using deltarpms, is the solution to your problem; OpenOffice.org and KDE, in particular, delta very well indeed; I've seen (on Fedora, which has presto enabled on the main repos) 90% reductions (that is, if an update set is 500MB, you only have to download 25MB of deltarpms) and even greater in updates of these. The savings in bandwidth are substantial, and I could not imagine tracking Fedora updates on dialup without presto. See http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8349