Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you -- Bo Lynch Systems Administrator RedHat Academy Instructor Energy Manager Amelia County Public Schools
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 14:56 -0500, Bo Lynch wrote:> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated.---- horde/imp/kronolith/turba/etc. I think it's even packaged in CentOS Plus Craig
Bo Lynch wrote:> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated.I've been evaluating some packages for my employer the last few months. The two products I have narrowed it down to my needs are eGroupware and Zimbra. So far, I'm leaning towards Zimbra, because it seems to offer a nice e-mail system with an easy to use interface for users. There is a community edition and a commercial edition. <http://www.zimbra.com/community/downloads.html> I too am currently using Postfix and Squirrelmail, and would like to keep using Postfix as the primary transport system. There is a way to configure Zimbra to act as a secondary system forwarding mail to Postfix, but I can't find the link right now. There are also methods to migrate to Zimbra from Squirrelmail using some imapsync scripts to migrate the mailboxes. By itself though, it seems to have a nice and powerful mail system with all the features of anti-virus, spam, etc. eGroupware works great too, so make sure you check it out, but I'm thinking of leaning towards Zimbra for my needs. <http://www.egroupware.org/> Check them out. Regards, Max
> -----Original Message----- > From: centos-bounces at centos.org > [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Bo Lynch > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:56 PM > To: centos at centos.org > Subject: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite > > Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a > groupware style system for out staff to collaborate better. > Currently we are using Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does > anyone have any recommendations/opinions. Any input would be > greatly appreciated. > Thank you > -- > Bo Lynch > Systems Administrator > RedHat Academy Instructor > Energy Manager > Amelia County Public Schools >It depends on what features you are looking to give your users, but you may want to look at Zimbra (Zimbra.com). They have a free version and paid versions. Nice web interface, sharing of address books, calendars, and documents, etc. Please report back your findings as it may be helpful to others. Andrew
Bo Lynch wrote:> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated. > Thank you > -- > Bo Lynch > Systems Administrator > RedHat Academy Instructor > Energy Manager > Amelia County Public Schools > >I may start a war here, but I'm going to recommend Lotus Notes / Domino as the collaborative software for you. I've had quite a bit of experience with it in a large multi-national company. It can definitely handle all that you may want to throw at it. It does have some draw backs - what doesn't? IBM / Lotus can give your people a great deal of support while they get their legs underneath them. I'm not going to swear to it, but I think they can extend some pretty good terms to public schools. There are all kinds of specialized add-ons as well. Development tools are pretty robust as well. Ed Westphal
----- "Bo Lynch" <blynch at ameliaschools.com> wrote:> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are > using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated.Zimbra works quite well. How many users do you have? One detriment I've found is that much of it's backend relies on Java and requires some serious tuning for installations with a large user base. Also, the logging facilities use MySQL and can cause huge performance issues especially when running consolidations/stat generations. Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105
----- "Bo Lynch" <blynch at ameliaschools.com> wrote:> I would say that we have around 300 users. > > Bo LynchYou'll definitely want to look at a multi-server setup for that. Put your mail/web services on one box and database/LDAP on another. Also, for such a large installation you may even want to look at their commercially supported editions. Last time I checked (admittedly quite a while ago) the pricing wasn't too horrendous and I've heard good things about their support staff. We've always opted to go with the pure open source aka self-supported version but then again we're running installations with fewer than 300 users. I believe our largest installation to date is ~100 users or so. Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105
Bo Lynch schrieb am 07.01.2009 20:56:> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated. > Thank youWe have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a really functional CalDAV-Interface which integrates perfectly into Thunderbird/Lightning. On the Website is a really good Install-Howto and it has even a yum repo. Greets Ren? -- GEEKCODE: GIT$ d- s+: a- C+++ UL++++$ P+ L++ E--- W+++ N+ !o K- w+ O- M-- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ X+ R tv+ b DI D++ G e+ h--- r++ y+++ PGP-Key and more available at http://www.standfest.net My Blog is at http://www.gaudidiecher.de
For a completely /different/ idea... I know several nonprofit and not-for-profit groups who coordinate their email and activities using a combination of GMail, google calendar(s) for scheduling, google apps for shared documents, and google group(s) for message board functionality. You can pull all this together with a google website, and put it under a domain name. The advantages of doing it this way are no costs at all, no hardware, no hardware maintenance. you just have to figure out how to put the google pieces together and teach your users how to use this mashup you've created from the various google pieces... the downside is that google is running everything, and you're relying on google goodwill to continue running this. your files and data are stored on their systems so you're subject to their privacy policies. and, of course, if your internet link is down, you'll have no access to any of it. otherwise, um, if you really do want self hosting... pick your favorite email server (postfix, sendmail, etc), use cyrus imap, let your clients use any imap email app they prefer (Mozilla Thunderbird, Microsoft Outlook or Live Mail, etc) and use openLDAP for a directory service. A wiki like DokuWiki can provide for group shared stuff... add in a calender server (webDAV wth iCAL files, or similar) that can be used with Thunderbird's Lightning Calendering plugin, and you've got quite a bit of groupware functionality right off the bat, including meeting invitations.
Ren? Standfest wrote:> We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo > (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying > problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like > Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a really functional CalDAV-Interface which > integrates perfectly into Thunderbird/Lightning. > On the Website is a really good Install-Howto and it has even a yum repo.Slightly OT, but just wondering if you are planning on running openLDAP on the SOGo Opengroupware installation, or whether or not you have an external LDAP server (CentOS DS or RHEL DS) that you are planning on using? Any experiences or gotchas that you have already encountered that might be useful? My company is planning on implementing either FDS or CentOS DS as an LDAP server, and I read the docs for SOGo, and they are using openLDAP on the same machine. Regards, Max
Bo Lynch wrote:> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are > using Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated.I will consider Sun Java Communications Suite as a serious candidate. Usermanagement is running in the Sun Directory Server. The calendarserver integrates very well with thunderbird, outlook and the webinterface is quite usefull. It is free, if You dont't need a support-contract. Lars Schelde Institute of Astronautics Technische Universit?t M?nchen Germany
Max Hetrick schrieb am 08.01.2009 17:23:>> We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo >> (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying >> problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like >> Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a really functional CalDAV-Interface which >> integrates perfectly into Thunderbird/Lightning. >> On the Website is a really good Install-Howto and it has even a yum repo. > > Slightly OT, but just wondering if you are planning on running openLDAP > on the SOGo Opengroupware installation, or whether or not you have an > external LDAP server (CentOS DS or RHEL DS) that you are planning on using?We have a mixed network and use Active Directory as central directory service. I had no problems to bind SOGo to ADS. But it should be no problem to use OpenLDAP or similar. Greets Ren? -- GEEKCODE: GIT$ d- s+: a- C+++ UL++++$ P+ L++ E--- W+++ N+ !o K- w+ O- M-- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ X+ R tv+ b DI D++ G e+ h--- r++ y+++ PGP-Key and more available at http://www.standfest.net My Blog is at http://www.gaudidiecher.de
Bo Lynch wrote:> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated. > Thank youI would stick in a suggestion to look at Scalix. Not free at 300 users, but it does run nicely on CentOS. Integrates well with Outlook and has a very nice webmail front end.
Kevin Thorpe wrote on Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:23:16 +0000:> Scalixand just to name the third of the "big three": OpenXchange. Kai -- Kai Sch?tzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com
maybe can look at http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html. cheers 2009/1/7 Bo Lynch <blynch at ameliaschools.com>:> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... > > We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware > style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using > Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any > recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated. > Thank you > -- > Bo Lynch > Systems Administrator > RedHat Academy Instructor > Energy Manager > Amelia County Public Schools > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: L.I. Ricardo D. Carrillo S?nchez :: Security Specialist :: Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico :: :: Ciudad Universitaria , D.F. Mex :: e-mail prim.: davxoc at gmai dot com :: e-mail secu.: davxoc at hotmail dot com :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 11:29 -0600, Ricardo Carrillo wrote:> maybe can look at http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html.Nothing on that list has been updated since 2004! If you want to do searching use a mainstream site like <http://www.freshmeat.net> (although many projects, including ours [OpenGroupware] do a lousy job of keeping their entries up to date).
Only was a reference for groupware names, you have to search into software repositories like freshmeat as well sourceforge. 2009/1/9 Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam at whitemice.org>:> On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 11:29 -0600, Ricardo Carrillo wrote: >> maybe can look at http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html. > > Nothing on that list has been updated since 2004! If you want to do > searching use a mainstream site like <http://www.freshmeat.net> > (although many projects, including ours [OpenGroupware] do a lousy job > of keeping their entries up to date). > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: L.I. Ricardo D. Carrillo S?nchez :: Security Specialist :: Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico :: :: Ciudad Universitaria , D.F. Mex :: e-mail prim.: davxoc at gmai dot com :: e-mail secu.: davxoc at hotmail dot com :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Kevin Thorpe wrote:> Bo Lynch wrote: >> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list..... >> >> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware >> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using >> Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any >> recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated. >> Thank you > I would stick in a suggestion to look at Scalix. Not free at 300 users, > but it does run nicely on CentOS. > Integrates well with Outlook and has a very nice webmail front end.I would be careful with Scalix. My son used to work at a place where they went with Scalix for 300+ users. The day to day maintenance on it can be a real bear. When you have a real problem that requires support, Scalix support is less than helpful. He left that job for another but still keeps in touch with his old boss. The old boss has told him that due to the Scalix problems they are budgeting for replacing Scalix with Exchange. On the other side of the coin, when it works, it works well and integrates well with Outlook. It is just overly complex under the hood. FWIW, they had Scalix running for 3+ years. -- Tom Diehl tdiehl at rogueind.com Spamtrap address mtd123 at rogueind.com