CentOS - Dec 2007 - Scary memory requirements for 5.1 graphic install

It is listed as a known issue, but I have a lot of 256Mb systems where I 
have used the graphic installer....

OUCH!

And when this is fixed (I really hope), it will mean some new ISOs to 
download?

Eso es muy importante, es que m?s me atrevo a decir que es 50% y 50% de 
importante
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Moskowitz" <rgm at htt-consult.com>
To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:26 PM
Subject: [CentOS] Scary memory requirements for 5.1 graphic install

> It is listed as a known issue, but I have a lot of 256Mb systems where I 
> have used the graphic installer....
>
> OUCH!
>
> And when this is fixed (I really hope), it will mean some new ISOs to 
> download?
>
>
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Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> It is listed as a known issue, but I have a lot of 256Mb systems where I
> have used the graphic installer....
> 
> OUCH!
> 
> And when this is fixed (I really hope), it will mean some new ISOs to
> download?
It is not broken ... you really need 512mb RAM to use the installer in
GUI mode reliably. And it purposely will not even start with < 256 MB.

This is primarily due the fact that the DEPS are solved a different way
that requires more memory now.

Text installs are not that bad ...

That is just the way it is, but it is only getting worse in the future,
not better (memory reqts that is).

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On Dec 3, 2007 11:26 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm at htt-consult.com>
wrote:
> It is listed as a known issue, but I have a lot of 256Mb systems where I
> have used the graphic installer....
>
> OUCH!
>
> And when this is fixed (I really hope), it will mean some new ISOs to
> download?
>
I would say that those systems may not be good candidates for future
EL versions. The memory requirements for the Enterprise editions are
going up with moore's law as more things get added to the wishbin 'of
what everyone wants'. I say this as I look at my 256 MB servers and
think that they will be EL-4 boxes from now on.


-- 
Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"

Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>   
>> It is listed as a known issue, but I have a lot of 256Mb systems where
I
>> have used the graphic installer....
>>
>> OUCH!
>>
>> And when this is fixed (I really hope), it will mean some new ISOs to
>> download?
>>     
>
> It is not broken ... you really need 512mb RAM to use the installer in
> GUI mode reliably. And it purposely will not even start with < 256 MB.
>   
I know about the < 256Mb.  I hit that on my notebook that has shared 
memory for the video.
> This is primarily due the fact that the DEPS are solved a different way
> that requires more memory now.
>   
It seems more important to have a local repo, and to do a minimum install.

Oh, will yum now encounter the same memory hit.  That is if I install 
yumex on a 256mb system after a minimum install, and run yumex in gnome 
to select my packages...

Or even the 'standard' add/remove program on the gnome
menu.
> Text installs are not that bad ...
>   
yeah, I have actually done them and gotten the hang of it.  Do the 
minimum install in text mode, the boot in gnome....
> That is just the way it is, but it is only getting worse in the future,
> not better (memory reqts that is).
Yeah, I have been losing memory for some time now.  :)

It will be a sad day when we cannot install on a 256mb system.

I have also had success putting a drive in one system for the install, 
moving the drive into the target system, and only having to 
system-config-display.