It looks like a problem that I thought had once been fixed is broken again. In manager.c line 2166 of both versions 1.6.0.3 and 1.6.0.5 if (!ast_strlen_zero(name)) { The ! Should not be there. I am not sure if there are other places there is a like problem but removing the ! for sure fixes at least one problem. -- Jim Dickenson mailto:dickenson at cfmc.com CfMC http://www.cfmc.com/