I'm trying to convince my employer to deploy an Asterisk based system, but one member of the leadership team is against it. The rest of the team is for it, but he's convinced them that we should find other organisations in the Joplin, MO area who are using Asterisk first because, "we don't want to be the first in our area." I can't fathom how that's relevant, since I have shown them case studies from much larger organisations than us around the country, and personally talked with other organisations using Asterisk, and found one small business with about 10 phones in Joplin, MO and talked to them, but he's insistent we find an organisation with 50-75 or more phones in the Joplin, MO area using Asterisk before we go ahead. So, is there anyone out there from the Joplin, MO area using Asterisk, or do you know of someone who is? If so, please contact me so I can go forward with this project. Thanks, Bryson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20080514/587aaff6/attachment.htm
Bryson Medlock wrote:> I'm trying to convince my employer to deploy an Asterisk based system, but > one member of the leadership team is against it. The rest of the team is > for it, but he's convinced them that we should find other organisations in > the Joplin, MO area who are using Asterisk first because, "we don't want to > be the first in our area."This is such a dangerous thing - that one team member must have some influence or control. I would find out what his concerns are, and attend to those first, before finding a relevant organisation. Otherwise he/she may just be using them as ammunition on why _not_ to use Asterisk. Julian I can't fathom how that's relevant, since I have> shown them case studies from much larger organisations than us around the > country, and personally talked with other organisations using Asterisk, and > found one small business with about 10 phones in Joplin, MO and talked to > them, but he's insistent we find an organisation with 50-75 or more phones > in the Joplin, MO area using Asterisk before we go ahead. > So, is there anyone out there from the Joplin, MO area using Asterisk, or do > you know of someone who is? If so, please contact me so I can go forward > with this project. > > Thanks, > Bryson > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Tell your Employer to have a little faith..... ________________________________ From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bryson Medlock Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:40 PM To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] anyone from Joplin, MO I'm trying to convince my employer to deploy an Asterisk based system, but one member of the leadership team is against it. The rest of the team is for it, but he's convinced them that we should find other organisations in the Joplin, MO area who are using Asterisk first because, "we don't want to be the first in our area." I can't fathom how that's relevant, since I have shown them case studies from much larger organisations than us around the country, and personally talked with other organisations using Asterisk, and found one small business with about 10 phones in Joplin, MO and talked to them, but he's insistent we find an organisation with 50-75 or more phones in the Joplin, MO area using Asterisk before we go ahead. So, is there anyone out there from the Joplin, MO area using Asterisk, or do you know of someone who is? If so, please contact me so I can go forward with this project. Thanks, Bryson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20080514/4e8a2fc2/attachment.htm
I can't speak for others, but I'm on here from a non-work address. Asterisk is a competitive advantage, and I think many businesses are reticent to advertise to their competitors how much money they saved on such a great phone system. We're saving literally hundreds of thousands of dollars by avoiding the ugly proprietary phone systems from the usual telco crowd. If you can't make the argument for asterisk by comparing the costs against a proprietary phone system, just pull some quotes from a proprietary phones salesperson. It should be a very easy business decision, made on dollars and cents. On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Bryson Medlock <bmedlock at chcchurch.org> wrote:> I'm trying to convince my employer to deploy an Asterisk based system, but > one member of the leadership team is against it. The rest of the team is > for it, but he's convinced them that we should find other organisations in > the Joplin, MO area who are using Asterisk first because, "we don't want to > be the first in our area." I can't fathom how that's relevant, since I have > shown them case studies from much larger organisations than us around the > country, and personally talked with other organisations using Asterisk, and > found one small business with about 10 phones in Joplin, MO and talked to > them, but he's insistent we find an organisation with 50-75 or more phones > in the Joplin, MO area using Asterisk before we go ahead. > So, is there anyone out there from the Joplin, MO area using Asterisk, or do > you know of someone who is? If so, please contact me so I can go forward > with this project. > > Thanks, > Bryson > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
You might consider starting small, with a desktop computer that you can drop Asterisk onto it. You may even consider using the Druid Open Source Edition (OSE) Project (which automates a large part of the Asterisk management and setup). And then implement a SIP-only phone system (no T1 or FXO cards required thereby reducing your cost). You can also obtain SIP only trunks for little cost which translates into low risk. Then you are able to work with a functional, low-cost system that gives you an opportuniy to work (play) with the system to see what its capabilities are without spending a lot of money. Then purchase a few SIP phones, and you are ready to test SIP to SIP local calls as well as SIP to Phone Switch Telephone Network (PSTN) via the SIP service. You can also play with the Voicemail system and setting up Voice menus, among a whole host of other features. This approach is low risk and low cost. Then as you progress, install a T1 card (or multi port T1 card) and take the next step to an all Asterisk solution or have Asterisk act as your Phone Gateway to your existing proprietary phone system that can be incrementally upgrade and replace with Open SIP Asterisk based system. Jeffrey Thompson mailto:jthompsonic at gmail.com -- Jeffrey Thompson <mailto:jthompsonic at gmail.com> POBOX 536, Suwanee, GA, 30024 770-234-8509
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 14:39 -0500, Bryson Medlock wrote:> I'm trying to convince my employer to deploy an Asterisk based system, > but one member of the leadership team is against it. The rest of the > team is for it, but he's convinced them that we should find other > organisations in the Joplin, MO area who are using Asterisk first > because, "we don't want to be the first in our area."Denotes the IQ of the person owning the quote is quite low, and that the organization you work for is far away from any sanity regarding total quality management, Although I must recon that in convincing the organization I worked for (two years ago) on moving to Asterisk for $5,000 implementation cost, instead of $70,000 for (sub-) equivalent Cisco solution I had to accept sub-contracting support for Asterisk, just in case I quit, which happened, but ditched the contracted support as well, ;-p> >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20080514/5bf19205/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5537 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20080514/5bf19205/attachment.bin
Bryson Medlock wrote:> I'm trying to convince my employer to deploy an Asterisk based system, > but one member of the leadership team is against it. The rest of the > team is for it, but he's convinced them that we should find other > organisations in the Joplin, MO area who are using Asterisk first > because, "we don't want to be the first in our area." I can't fathom > how that's relevant, since I have shown them case studies from much > larger organisations than us around the country, and personally talked > with other organisations using Asterisk, and found one small business > with about 10 phones in Joplin, MO and talked to them, but he's > insistent we find an organisation with 50-75 or more phones in the > Joplin, MO area using Asterisk before we go ahead. > So, is there anyone out there from the Joplin, MO area using Asterisk, > or do you know of someone who is? If so, please contact me so I can > go forward with this project. > > Thanks, > Bryson > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-usersMy most recent install was in Springfield MO, 50 Zap phones, 25 SIP, 2 T1's, 12 POTS run through a Rhino Modular Channel Bank. We are running Asterisk 1.4.16, recording all phone calls. Minor issues with dropped calls (being worked on with LD provider) and occasional static, due to using EM Wink signalling (provider screwed up and did not provision PRI).. Stay with PRI T's and you should be fine. Sherwood McGowan