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Matt

2008-Feb-26 20:10 UTC

[asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage

I've had it with Dell server garbage.    They seem to change RAID
controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work
with Linux, unless you load a new driver.    They sell servers with a PCI-e
slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
the PCI-e slot!   Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
them more often than I change underwear.
[end rant].

Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has
room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
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Steve Totaro

2008-Feb-26 20:20 UTC

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Matt <mhoppes at gmail.com>
wrote:> I've had it with Dell server garbage.    They seem to change RAID
> controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't
work
> with Linux, unless you load a new driver.    They sell servers with a PCI-e
> slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
> the PCI-e slot!   Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
> them more often than I change underwear.
>  [end rant].
>
> Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
> Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and
has
> room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
>
HP DL380 is my baby.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

Erik Anderson

2008-Feb-26 20:26 UTC

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Matt <mhoppes at gmail.com>
wrote:> I've had it with Dell server garbage.    They seem to change RAID
> controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't
work
> with Linux, unless you load a new driver.    They sell servers with a PCI-e
> slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
> the PCI-e slot!   Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
> them more often than I change underwear.
>  [end rant].
Ouch!  :-)

I can't speak to the PCIe issue, but I've never in my life had
compatibility issues with the Dell RAID controllers.  What kernel are
you on?
> Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
> Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and
has
> room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
Gateway server?  Ewwwww.

Have you looked into the new Sun servers?  I've been researching them
lately, and they have some compelling offerrings.  They also offer
full support for linux as well...

-erik

John covici

2008-Feb-26 20:27 UTC

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I had a server built for me by J and N Computer Services
http://www.jncs.com which is using a Super Micro c2sbe MB which I
think has what you need plus 4 PCI-32 slots!  Its a nice MB and I have
an e8400 cpu in it.



on Tuesday 02/26/2008 Matt(mhoppes at gmail.com) wrote
 > I've had it with Dell server garbage.    They seem to change RAID
 > controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't
work
 > with Linux, unless you load a new driver.    They sell servers with a
PCI-e
 > slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is
using
 > the PCI-e slot!   Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
 > them more often than I change underwear.
 > [end rant].
 > 
 > Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
 > Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and
has
 > room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
 > I&#39;ve had it with Dell server
garbage.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; They seem to change RAID controllers as
much as I change socks, and then the controllers don&#39;t work with Linux,
unless you load a new driver.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; They sell servers
with a PCI-e slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller
is using the PCI-e slot!&nbsp;&nbsp; Their sales folks are dumber than
rocks, and they change them more often than I change underwear.<br>
 > [end rant].<br><br>Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway
server that you have used with Asterisk and are happy with, and which will
support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has room for one or two PCI-express interface
cards?<br>
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Mike Trest - Personal

2008-Feb-26 20:55 UTC

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Steve,
I have fielded several hundred Asterisk and related VoIP boxes.
I buy SuperMicro 1-U units mostly.  I have also used their larger
units with RAID and a full load of ULTRA SCSI (for MySql application).

I like these because, after bad experience with DELL/COMPAQ/HP/IBM
compatibility issue, the supermicro systems always load and work with
all of the Fedora kernels will just with their RAID controllers.

..mike..

Norman Franke

2008-Feb-26 22:27 UTC

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On Feb 26, 2008, at 4:13 PM, asterisk-users-request at lists.digium.com  
wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Matt <mhoppes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've had it with Dell server garbage.    They seem to change RAID
>> controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers  
>> don't work
>> with Linux, unless you load a new driver.    They sell servers  
>> with a PCI-e
>> slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller  
>> is using
>> the PCI-e slot!   Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and  
>> they change
>> them more often than I change underwear.
>>  [end rant].
>>
>> Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
>> Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or  
>> RAID-5 and has
>> room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
>>
>
> HP DL380 is my baby.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro
Ditto. We've been using HPs for a while without problem. I'm  
currently using a DL380 (a recent quad processor one) and it screams.

-Norman

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Joshua Kinard

2008-Feb-26 22:51 UTC

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Just don't use T1 cards w/ TigerJet chipsets in them on DL385's (and
very likely, 380's as well).  I just learned this the hard way.

--J

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces
at lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Norman Franke
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To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage

On Feb 26, 2008, at 4:13 PM, asterisk-users-request at lists.digium.com wrote:

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Matt < mhoppes at gmail.com> wrote:

I've had it with Dell server garbage.    They seem to change RAID

controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work

with Linux, unless you load a new driver.    They sell servers with a PCI-e

slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using

the PCI-e slot!   Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change

them more often than I change underwear.

 [end rant].

Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with

Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and has

room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?

HP DL380 is my baby.

Thanks,

Steve Totaro

Ditto. We've been using HPs for a while without problem. I'm currently
using a DL380 (a recent quad processor one) and it screams.

-Norman

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vision_admin at vision21networks.com

2008-Feb-28 04:14 UTC

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<html><body><br>There is a problem with Dell Servers and I
experienced the same issue as you speak of with Dell 2900 Servers.&nbsp; I
keep getting PCIe Training Error and Dell had to replace the raid
controller.&nbsp; Take a look at IBM 3550.<br><br>
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margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;">
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage<br>
From: Norman Franke <norman@myasd.com><br>
Date: Tue, February 26, 2008 5:27 pm<br>
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com<br>
<br>
<div><div>On Feb 26, 2008, at 4:13 PM, <a
href="mailto:asterisk-users-request@lists.digium.com"
target="_blank"
_onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=asterisk-users-request%40lists.digium.com');;
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wrote:</div><br
class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote
type="cite" style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px;
padding-left: 8px;"><p style="margin: 0px;"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="">On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at
3:10 PM, Matt <<a href="mailto:mhoppes@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
_onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=mhoppes%40gmail.com');;
return false;">mhoppes@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</span></p> <blockquote type="cite"
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8px;"><p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px;"><font
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust:
none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica"
size="3">I've had it with Dell server garbage.<span
class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp;
</span>They seem to change RAID</font></p> <p
style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px;"><font style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch:
normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">controllers as
much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't
work</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px
10px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica"
size="3">with Linux, unless you load a new driver.<span
class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp;
</span>They sell servers with a PCI-e</font></p> <p
style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px;"><font style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch:
normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">slot in them, but
then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px;"><font
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust:
none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica"
size="3">the PCI-e slot! <span
class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>Their sales
folks are dumber than rocks, and they change</font></p> <p
style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px;"><font style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch:
normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">them more often
than I change underwear.</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px
0px 0px 10px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style:
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height:
normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"
face="Helvetica" size="3"><span
class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[end
rant].</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px;
font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;
font-stretch: normal; min-height: 14px;"><br></p> <p
style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px;"><font style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch:
normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">Can anyone
recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used
with</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px
10px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica"
size="3">Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1
or RAID-5 and has</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px
10px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica"
size="3">room for one or two PCI-express interface
cards?</font></p> <p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 10px;
font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;
font-stretch: normal; min-height: 14px;"><br></p>
</blockquote><p style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px;
line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; min-height:
14px;"><br></p> <p style="margin:
0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica"
size="3">HP DL380 is my baby.</font></p> <p
style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; min-height:
14px;"><br></p> <p style="margin:
0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica"
size="3">Thanks,</font></p> <p style="margin:
0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica"
size="3">Steve Totaro</font></p>
</blockquote></div><br><div>Ditto. We've been using
HPs for a while without problem. I'm currently using a DL380 (a recent quad
processor one) and it screams.&nbsp;</div><div><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>-Norman</div><div><br
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