Hi List;
Where I can download Asterisk GUI and what I can have
benifit from it?
Regards
Bilal
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On 6/14/07, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh@yahoo.com> wrote:> Hi List; > > Where I can download Asterisk GUI and what I can have > benifit from it?Whaddya know - there's a whole page on the wiki dedicated to such things: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+GUI ;-) I'm a CLI-only guy myself, so I can't comment on the quality (or lack therof) of any of the offerrings. I believe FreePBX is the most popular by far, though, so you may want to check that out first. -erik
Voip-info has some different links to packages out there for a gui based asterisk. In my experience, I've found it much easier to tweak a dialplan and user accounts by hand. We are using realtime/mysql for all our voicemail/sip/extensions, and I have a small gui I made that creates those initial entries, but afterwards, I do the alterations by hand as it gives me more control and you don't have to rely on apache going down. I also use asterisk cdr, which is a great gui if you are storing your cdr records in mysql as well. It generates some decent graphs and break downs on usage and has a decent search tool. bilal ghayyad wrote:> Hi List; > > Where I can download Asterisk GUI and what I can have > benifit from it? > > Regards > Bilal > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
GUI bad! CLI good! PaulH On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 11:40 -0700, bilal ghayyad wrote:> Hi List; > > Where I can download Asterisk GUI and what I can have > benifit from it? > > Regards > Bilal > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Paul Hales wrote:> GUI bad! CLI good! > > PaulHReally...? So explain why every major PBX manufacturer has GUI of some sort? Surely they would have had CLI only if GUI is "bad"!!! Senad www.bicomsystems.com
On Saturday 16 June 2007 02:24 am, Senad Jordanovic wrote:> Paul Hales wrote: > > GUI bad! CLI good! > > > > PaulH > > Really...? > > So explain why every major PBX manufacturer has GUI of some sort? > Surely they would have had CLI only if GUI is "bad"!!! > > > SenadSenad - it is really to cover the inability of 'average' people to understand CLI. Any 4 year old can run a GUI and that is why the skill level of people programming phone systems has gone down hill so much. It really is a profit driven decision by management to get cheaper employees and make more money. Brett
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 08:55:24PM +0100, Senad Jordanovic wrote:> Brett Crapser wrote: > > On Saturday 16 June 2007 02:24 am, Senad Jordanovic wrote: > >> Paul Hales wrote: > >>> GUI bad! CLI good! > >>> > >>> PaulH > >> > >> Really...? > >> > >> So explain why every major PBX manufacturer has GUI of some sort? > >> Surely they would have had CLI only if GUI is "bad"!!! > >> > >> > >> Senad > > > > Senad - it is really to cover the inability of 'average' people to > > understand CLI. > > CLI is useful for small/simple "dial" tone installations. Anything above > that even very competent administrator will make syntax/logical errors.Hence automation is required. Automation does not imply GUI. Bad GUIs get in the way of automation. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir at jabber.org +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:guest at local.xorcom.com/tzafrir
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 08:22:23AM +0100, Senad Jordanovic wrote:> Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 08:55:24PM +0100, Senad Jordanovic wrote: > >> Brett Crapser wrote: > >>> On Saturday 16 June 2007 02:24 am, Senad Jordanovic wrote: > >>>> Paul Hales wrote: > >>>>> GUI bad! CLI good! > >>>>> > >>>>> PaulH > >>>> > >>>> Really...? > >>>> > >>>> So explain why every major PBX manufacturer has GUI of some sort? > >>>> Surely they would have had CLI only if GUI is "bad"!!! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Senad > >>> > >>> Senad - it is really to cover the inability of 'average' people to > >>> understand CLI. > >> > >> CLI is useful for small/simple "dial" tone installations. Anything > >> above that even very competent administrator will make > >> syntax/logical errors. > > > > Hence automation is required. Automation does not imply GUI. > > Bad GUIs get in the way of automation.Indeed incorrect phrasing. The GUI is not directly related to that. A bad system may include a GUI that is very convinient for a small number of objects, but get in the way of applying unexpected types of changes. Another typical situation is that a system is built with a certain flow in mind, and that flow is not good enough for all the cases. And often makes many simple tasks complicated.> > Automation is another subject/scope. However, GUI is collection of knowledge > and experience. If applied correctly it can only improve the company > offerings. > > I have personally spent years learning CLI in order to apply it to initial > design of our GUI- PBXware. > Thousands installation after, I have no full knowledge of CLI any more and I > do not need to. It is embedded into PBXware and our team has collective > knowledge of the whole solution. That is something CLI can NOT offer since > detailed knowledge/training is required individually from the vary basics. > That translates into: > > GUI - team/company knowledge, less training, faster time to market > CLI - knowledge of individual / unnecessary dependency/training /longer time > to marketActually, you need specific training of the specific system, as well as ability to debug generic Asterisk problems. Not to mention the poor souls who need to support a varity of systems. For them those systems just add complexity. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir at jabber.org +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:guest at local.xorcom.com/tzafrir
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 04:25:44AM -0700, bilal ghayyad wrote:> Hi List; > > My Question was: > > >From where I can download the Asterisk GUI, a lot of > replies we received but I did not receive from where I > download it and how I compile it.svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk-gui/trunk asterisk-gui -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir at jabber.org +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:guest at local.xorcom.com/tzafrir
On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Senad Jordanovic wrote:> Tom Rymes wrote:[snip]>> >> How many times does it have to be said? Don't feed the trolls! >> >> Tom >> > > Tom...Who in your opinion is a troll? > > > SenadWell, technically, I was calling the original post a troll, not the original poster. More specifically, the usage of troll I am referring to resembles the fishing technique more than the mythological creature. Basically, a troll in this context is a post that someone makes simply for the purpose of starting a heated discussion on a very touchy subject. In other words, the original poster is "trolling" for people who will get all bent out of shape about their post and fire back a heated response. For example, a user could post a message to the list asking "I'm new to Linux and Asterisk. Should edit my dialplan by hand, use FreePBX, or buy a commercial solution?" Imagine the response as you tried to convince them to buy PBXWare, FreePBX users try to convince them that they should start out using FreePBX, and others go on about how hand coding a dialplan is the one-true-way? to learn Asterisk. Generally, the original poster is just looking to get everyone stirred up over nothing. In other words, Paul's original post of "GUI bad! CLI good!" was just the sort of post that is going to get folks fired up re-re-restarting the age-old discussion of which is better: CLI or GUI. Basically, it could be like posting any of the following: - Which is better: emacs or vi? - Which linux distribution is the best? - Which is better: Macs or Windows? All of these questions share the following: 1.) They have no right answer (macs are better for some, Windows for others, and linux for others still, not to mention OS/2, BSD, etc) 2.) People on the various sides of the debate have extremely strong feelings on the matter 3.) Nobody is likely to be convinced that the other side is right and that they are wrong. 4.) They have all been discussed thousands of times before, and nothing new is likely to be said on the matter. 5.) The only purpose served by the discussion, due to the reasons above, is to clutter up the mailing list. 6.) Any discussion thread regarding these sorts of topics is best avoided. For a more thorough description of an internet troll, see the following wikipedia article:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_% 28internet%29 In other words, if you see a post that is just going to result in a re-rehashing of the last rehash of a specific subject, just hit the delete key instead of clogging up the mailing list with yet another thread on whether a GUI or a CLI is better. (for example). In Paul's defense, it looked to me like his original post was simply a joke that was misunderstood. (I thought it was funny, anyway) I suppose I should take my own advice on this one, but sometimes I guess we all just can't resist. <grin> Tom
So I'll ask the question. What's wrong with top posting. I use a blackberry to read most of my email, and bottom posting means excessive scrolling, often waiting to download additional content resulting in higher usage fees and rsi on my thumb for scrolling 90% of messages including all general email conversations are too posted yet discussion groups want bottom posting. Why? Dave Bour Desktop Solution Center 905.381.0077 dcbour at desktopsolutioncenter.ca For those who just want it to work... Giving you complete IT peace of mind. (Sent via Blackberry - hence message may be shorter than my usual verbose responses) PIN 4cc364db (as of March 24, 2007) ----- Original Message ----- From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com <asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com> Sent: Thu Jun 21 12:48:45 2007 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk GUI On Jun 20, 2007, at 5:04 PM, Troy Ayers wrote:> I would have been convinced if you had not top-posted! heh > > > Rob Schall wrote: >> Tom, >> >> I disagree with your argument for a number of reasons. Each of these >> reasons should be more than enough to convince you I'm correct and >> you >> should do it my way and only my way. >> >> And for the record, VI and CLI. >> >> RobOK, Now I'm confused... I was prepared to accept Rob's argument due its beautiful, flawless logic. But Troy has a valid point: Rob did top-post, invalidating his point. But so did Troy, invalidating his point, so now I'm stuck. Whatever shall I do? I think I'll just stick with my own opinion, seeing as both Rob and Troy are obviously idiots. (duh!) ;-) Tom _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070622/663895a3/attachment-0001.htm