asterisk users - Dec 2006 - Is there any Asterisk controllable thermostat?

I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be
controlled from Asterisk. Like you call your home pbx, dial some extension,
e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a temperature, and it
sets the thermostat to that temperature. This thermostat will be very
useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after a few days and now its
snowing and you want home to be warm on your arrival, you can turn the
furnace on an hour before your arrival.

Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other
Asterisk controllable home automation devices?

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Zeeshan A Zakaria
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Never tried, but this should work: http://www.smarthome.com/3001.html

Lots of neat stuff on that site.

On 12/3/06, Zeeshan Zakaria <zishanov@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be
> controlled from Asterisk. Like you call your home pbx, dial some extension,
> e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a temperature, and
> it sets the thermostat to that temperature. This thermostat will be very
> useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after a few days and now its
> snowing and you want home to be warm on your arrival, you can turn the
> furnace on an hour before your arrival.
>
> Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other
> Asterisk controllable home automation devices?
>
> --
> Zeeshan A Zakaria
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Asterisk can control any x10 capable device.  For a good example, see
http://lorancestinson.blogspot.com/2006/08/asterisk-can-control-world.ht
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I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be
controlled from Asterisk. Like you call your home pbx, dial some
extension, e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a
temperature, and it sets the thermostat to that temperature. This
thermostat will be very useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after
a few days and now its snowing and you want home to be warm on your
arrival, you can turn the furnace on an hour before your arrival.

Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other
Asterisk controllable home automation devices? 

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> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 23:04:52 -0500
> From: "Zeeshan Zakaria" <zishanov@gmail.com>
> Subject: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable
>         thermostat?
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> I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be
> controlled from Asterisk.
	Trixbox comes bundled with xPl, which is a home automation network API
that is also common to Windows XP. I haven't seen any documentation of
how to actually use it (with Trixbox/Asterisk), but I would be very
interested in seeing some, including examples and supported HW.

> Like you call your home pbx, dial some extension,
> e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a temperature,
> and it
> sets the thermostat to that temperature. This thermostat will be very
> useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after a few days and now its
> snowing and you want home to be warm on your arrival, you can turn the
> furnace on an hour before your arrival.
> 
> Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other
> Asterisk controllable home automation devices?
> 
> -- 
> Zeeshan A Zakaria 
-- 

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On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 11:04:52PM -0500, Zeeshan Zakaria
wrote:
> I am wondering if there is any such thermostat available which can be
> controlled from Asterisk. Like you call your home pbx, dial some extension,
> e.g. 333 and it asks to set the temperature, you enter a temperature, and
it
> sets the thermostat to that temperature. This thermostat will be very
> useful, e.g. when you're coming back home after a few days and now its
> snowing and you want home to be warm on your arrival, you can turn the
> furnace on an hour before your arrival.
> 
> Is there any such thermostat available, and for that matter any other
> Asterisk controllable home automation devices?
The first question you should ask yourself is: "can Linux [or any other
specific OS you run Asterisk on] contro a thermostat". Once you managed
to do that, connecting it to Asterisk shouldn't be too big a deal. If
all else fails, use AGI for quick&dirty patching with external scripts.

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I am reading about xPL protocol since Asterisk@Home 0.9, when I first used
it. Its been more than two years now and I never saw any documentation on
it. Their website itself needs material to be put on it. So xML is not a
useful thing at all at this point.
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I meant xPL, not xML in my last eamil.
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Quoting Zeeshan Zakaria <zishanov@gmail.com>:
> I am reading about xPL protocol since Asterisk@Home 0.9, when I first used
> it. Its been more than two years now and I never saw any documentation on
> it. Their website itself needs material to be put on it. So xML is not a
> useful thing at all at this point.
>


I have done some work on snmp enabling thermostats and burglar alarm systems
with the end goal to integrate with asterisk / web interface eventually. SNMP
in general is well supported and well documented for controlling devices. A
subagent for the particular hardware and a generic snmp interface for asterisk
would be what is required. The devices I was working with are actually talked
to physically by the Dallas 1-wire hardware/protocol, and there is various
linux support already for talking to those type of busses.

interfacing to asterisk could be a nice module that talks snmp, or it could be
as simple as calling the existing shell commands from netsnmp such as snmpget
and snmpset.

If anyone wants to discuss with me offlist, I have official IANA enterprise
numbers already allocated for this, as well as some of the mibs started which
cover a lot more than just the thermostats.





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Quoting Zeeshan Zakaria <zishanov@gmail.com>:
> I meant xPL, not xML in my last eamil.
yeah got that :) - and I agree with you, it seems more like vapourware than
anything with much substance at this point, I just looked over that a few days
ago when I ran across it by accident.


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I remembered I had an x10 bottlerocket in my X10 junkbox so I connected it
to a spare serial port on my linux server (asterisk resides there) and
implemented with some mods the code mentioned earlier....

http://lorance.freeshell.org/asterisk/#asterisk-can-control-the-world

and it works great. Now I have one more way to control X10 devices. I can
even call my VM on the way home and turn on my lights or whatever before I
get home.

Doug

I wouldn't IVR this.  I'd do it with extensions.  You have areas,
targets, and actions assigned to an extension digit. So if lights are
appliance type 1, the bedroom is location 1, and the action to turn the
target on is 1, so you dial extension 111 and perform an action based on
the extension.  This also gives you the opportunity to "macro" events.
Press 539 (sex) and it turns on the Jacuzzi, streams some Tony Bennett
to the speakers, sets the lights to dim, lights the fireplace, porn
begins streaming to the flatscreen and the phone is set to DND. (not
that you'd ever get laid if you were this geeky)




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[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Prior
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:37 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable
thermostat?

Doug Crompton wrote:
> and it works great. Now I have one more way to control X10 devices. I
can
> even call my VM on the way home and turn on my lights or whatever
before I
> get home.
> 
> Doug
I've started to play with writing some code using the Java FastAGI 
interface to connect to my home automation system.  The code is
working and I could now write whatever I wanted, but I haven't figured
out what would be a reasonable menu interface that wouldn't be very
annoying to use.  I'd be very interested to hear what menu structures
and what actual capabilities people have found useful and nice to use.

For example, has anyone come up with something less annoying than the
following dialog:

"Press 1 for living room, press 2 for outside, press 3 for bedroom"
(I press 2)
"Press 1 for porch light, press 2 for garage light"
(I press 1)
"Press 1 to turn on, Press 2 to turn off, Press 3 to say current
status"
(I press 1)
"congratulations, you just spent several minutes just to turn on a
light!"


Steve
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On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 07:20 -0700,
asterisk-users-request@lists.digium.com wrote:
> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:11:59 -0700
> From: John Marvin <jm-asterisk@themarvins.org>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Is there any Asterisk controllable
>         thermostat?
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> 
> Doug Crompton wrote:
> > I remembered I had an x10 bottlerocket in my X10 junkbox so I
> connected it
> > to a spare serial port on my linux server (asterisk resides there)
> and
> > implemented with some mods the code mentioned earlier....
> > 
> >
> http://lorance.freeshell.org/asterisk/#asterisk-can-control-the-world
> > 
> > and it works great. Now I have one more way to control X10 devices.
> I can
> > even call my VM on the way home and turn on my lights or whatever
> before I
> > get home.
> 
> I would suggest that people who don't already have an investment in
> home 
> automation equipment should look at Insteon rather than X10. Insteon
> is 
> a next generation version of X10 that provides backwards
> compatibility 
> with X10. The devices are a little more expensive, but not as
> expensive 
> as some of the other alternatives. Insteon provides 2 way
> communication 
> and is a lot more reliable than X10.
> 
> If you already have an investment in X10 devices you can slowly
> convert 
> to Insteon, since Insteon provides backwards compatibility, i.e. X10 
> controllers can control Insteon devices and Insteon controllers can 
> control X10 devices, however you won't get all the advantages of
> Insteon 
> until you have Insteon controllers controlling Insteon devices.
> 
> For people with some soldering and basic circuit design skills, you
> may 
> want to consider using ethernet as a home automation bus for some 
> things. I love the Olimex PIC WEB and PIC Mini Web development boards 
> (they cost $49.95 and $39.95 respectively). They have an ethernet
> port 
> and an expansion connector for the available PIC I/O pins. Microchip 
> provides a free C compiler for Pic processors, and they also have an 
> open source networking stack that works on the Olimex boards. So with
> a 
> ribbon cable connector and a small breadboard with a few IC's and/or 
> driver transistors you can build a device that responds to commands
> via 
> the network (or via a built in web server) from your Asterisk server 
> that does about any task you can think of. Lots of fun ... I'm
> currently 
> building a voicemail indicator (my wife didn't like me taking her 
> answering machine away with the blinking lights when we switched to 
> Asterisk voicemail) using a PIC Web board. Next project will be a web 
> based sprinkler controller.
	Are any of these home automation systems compatible with homeplug? Or
WiFi, or BlueTooth? It seems to me that bundling a proprietary (or less
popular) network protocol (and HW) with the device controller fragments
the market, and prohibits reuse of the mass market network, which
prevents economies of scale for consumers and developers.

> John 
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