asterisk users - Mar 2005 - [OT] - Why should I answer a Newbie questio n,therethick!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Fielding [mailto:paul@fielding.ca]
> Frankly, I agree.  If you don't like the question, feel it's 
> lame or dumb, 
> or don't like that someone hasn't done their research, then 
> delete the message.
Well, sometimes that works.  But I've been on a lot of lists where newbies
who thought they were being ignored started flaming people for not
responding to them, writing posts badmouthing the project, hijacking other
threads, accusing people of being cliquish, etc.  Sometimes you just can't
win.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Brodbeck" <DavidB@mail.interclean.com>
> Well, sometimes that works.  But I've been on a lot of lists where
newbies
> who thought they were being ignored started flaming people for not
> responding to them, writing posts badmouthing the project, hijacking other
> threads, accusing people of being cliquish, etc.  Sometimes you just
can't
> win.
Sure.  But if they flame, then they deserve to get hammered on.  In that 
case, hammer away.  However, I don't think it's fair to lump all newbies
into that basket.  Let them throw the first punch, rather than assume that 
all newbies who don't know better are out to wreak havoc....

How would the experts like it if everyone assumes they're a bunch of 
arrogant techies who only want to talk down to those less worthy, before 
they speak up and prove it to be true?  :)  Don't make the same assumptions 
in the reverse for the newbies...

regards,

Paul

1. Before asking a question, do a Google search
2. After a general Google search, do a specific search on this group 3.
After a Google search, look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk
the information contained in these pages will answer 95% of your startup
questions. 4. If you have done 1, 2, & 3 - feel free to email the list. 5.
Please do not email the list asking people to hold your hand.  That is not
what the list is for, it is for help if you run into an implementation
problem, not to teach you the basics by using 1, 2, & 3.

In addition:  Output from the Asterisk console with -vvvvvvv and sip debug
turned on is VERY helpful to diagnose your errors.
*********************************************************

I like this idea if it is possible!  I am trying to get my sales department
to do something like this as well.  I could write a hundred FAQs, but nobody
reads them, just calls:)

Shanon



A Google search of the lists using  "terms site:digium.com" in Google
is
also very helpful in finding pertinent material.

-Nate

To paraphrase:

Ignore them and they will go away.



----- Original Message -----
From: "David Brodbeck" <DavidB@mail.interclean.com>
To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion'"
<asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
Sent: March 4, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie
question,therethick!

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Fielding [mailto:paul@fielding.ca]
>
> > Frankly, I agree.  If you don't like the question, feel it's
> > lame or dumb,
> > or don't like that someone hasn't done their research, then
> > delete the message.
>
> Well, sometimes that works.  But I've been on a lot of lists where
newbies
> who thought they were being ignored started flaming people for not
> responding to them, writing posts badmouthing the project, hijacking other
> threads, accusing people of being cliquish, etc.  Sometimes you just
can't
> win.
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