asterisk users - Jan 2005 - Happy Wednesday Morning SMS question, slightly OT

We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
center and get the word out that way.  

Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?

Who knows more about this?

Jay Milk wrote:
> We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
> While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
> those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
> send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
> center and get the word out that way.  
> 
> Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
> voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
> phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
> somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
> carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
> to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
> cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
> through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?
> 
> Who knows more about this?
> 
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Here's one solution if you have a EUR1600 to spend:
http://www.2n.cz/products/gsm_gateways/voip.html

For outbound SMS, I've thought about having an * plug-in open an HTTP 
connection with the cellular provider's web site.  From there I could 
send the message (kinda like the old 3270 screen scrape).

Is SMS part of SS7, or is it a cellular protocol only?  I've seen the 
SMS functions in Asterisk--how are these intended to be used?  Is it 
Europe/GSM only?

Cheers

-- 
Michael Welter
Introspect Telephony Corp.
Denver, Colorado US
+1.303.674.2575
mike@introspect.com
www.introspect.com

> We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
> While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
> those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
> send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
> center and get the word out that way.  
> 
> Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
> voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
> phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
> somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
> carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
> to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
> cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
> through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?
> 
> Who knows more about this?
Based on previous postings, the SMS thingie is primarly a european thing
and is rather different from the US cellular implementation. Since you
mentioned T-Mobile, I'm assuming you're in the US.

If that assumption is correct, then its not likely you're going to be
able to accomplish your objective without implementing some sort of
site-specific role-your-own mechanism (eg, I don't know of any US cellular
company that would sell you a sms address for your pbx).

> How can I *accept* messages on my
> voip-based US landline? 
I doubt it. SMS depends upon the sender and receiver talking via FSK
*before* the phone is answered. I wish fax worked this way, by the
way.

On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 10:23, Jay Milk wrote:
> We all mostly know that * as well as various SIP phones support SMS.
> While the final setup is somewhat of a mystery, there are reports of
> those lucky souls who have it working.  We also know that in order to
> send an SMS to a mobile phone, we need to connect to some SMS message
> center and get the word out that way.  
> 
> Now, here's the new (?) element:  How can I *accept* messages on my
> voip-based US landline?  I know that if I send an SMS from my T-Mobile
> phone to a friend's Verizon phone, the message goes through, so
> somewhere there must exist a national message center that knows which
> carrier to hand the message off to.  Technically it should be possible
> to register a phone number with them to receive messages sent from
> cell-phones or from other * systems, and then to receive these messages
> through * and onto a SMS capable IP phone...?
> 
> Who knows more about this?
> 
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isn't SMS sent out via SS7?
dave

Some commerical SMS gateways can provision a # for routing inbound
messages. An example or 2 would be clickatell and ippipi