asterisk users - Jul 2004 - Asterisk + NEC Electra Elite IPK Integration

solution please.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher L. Wade" <clwade@sparco.com>
To: <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + NEC Electra Elite IPK Integration

> Please disregard, I have 'solved' the issue.
>
> Thank you,
> Chris
>
> Christopher L. Wade wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm am currently in the process of trying to integrate an * box
with an
> > NEC Electra Elite IPK.
> >
> > Currently, we have 7 POTS lines coming into our building.  These lines
> > are plugged into our NEC using the appropriate analog line interface
> > card from NEC.  The NEC effectively has NO configuration done to it,
> > other than to make all the internal phones ring when a call comes in.
We
> > also have voicemail and an extremely simple auto attendant setup to
deal
> > with calls during off hours.
> >
> > Due to the cost of all the components/software/consulting needed to
make
> > the NEC do everything it needs to do, we are hoping to 'merge'
the NEC
> > with an * box.
> >
> > In my 'working' * box, I have a wctdm11b (asterisk dev-kit)
with 1 FXO
> > and 1 FXS card.  I say working, because I have everything setup if I
> > totally bypass the NEC.  As per an email conversation with Digium, we
> > are connecting our POTS line to the FXS card, and the NEC to the FXO
card.
> >
> > My current dilemma is that when I plug the * box and the NEC together,
I
> > cannot get the * box to 'dial' a particular extension on the
NEC.  It is
> > my belief that this is due to some configuration changes needing to be
> > made on the NEC.  Unfortunately, this is the exact thing I needed to
> > avoid and the reason for changing from the NEC to * in the first
place.
> >  I know some changes to the NEC need to be made, but I am unsure as to
> > exactly what, and how to do it.
> >
> > Any input on how to get this working would be greatly appreciated.  If
> > more information is required, please let me know.  Please don't
flame me
> > for possibly being off-top, I don't think I need baby stepping
through
> > this, I simply need to know where to start looking.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chris
> >
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> -- 
> Christopher L. Wade
> Systems Administrator
>
> Unistar-Sparco Computers, Inc.
> dba Sparco.com
> 7089 Ryburn Drive
> Millington, TN 38053
> USA
>
> Phone: (901) 872 2272
>         (800) 840 8400
> Fax:   (901) 872 8482
> Email: clwade@sparco.com
>
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Hi,

I'm am currently in the process of trying to integrate an * box with an 
NEC Electra Elite IPK.

Currently, we have 7 POTS lines coming into our building.  These lines 
are plugged into our NEC using the appropriate analog line interface 
card from NEC.  The NEC effectively has NO configuration done to it, 
other than to make all the internal phones ring when a call comes in. 
We also have voicemail and an extremely simple auto attendant setup to 
deal with calls during off hours.

Due to the cost of all the components/software/consulting needed to make 
the NEC do everything it needs to do, we are hoping to 'merge' the NEC 
with an * box.

In my 'working' * box, I have a wctdm11b (asterisk dev-kit) with 1 FXO 
and 1 FXS card.  I say working, because I have everything setup if I 
totally bypass the NEC.  As per an email conversation with Digium, we 
are connecting our POTS line to the FXS card, and the NEC to the FXO card.

My current dilemma is that when I plug the * box and the NEC together, I 
cannot get the * box to 'dial' a particular extension on the NEC.  It is
my belief that this is due to some configuration changes needing to be 
made on the NEC.  Unfortunately, this is the exact thing I needed to 
avoid and the reason for changing from the NEC to * in the first place. 
  I know some changes to the NEC need to be made, but I am unsure as to 
exactly what, and how to do it.

Any input on how to get this working would be greatly appreciated.  If 
more information is required, please let me know.  Please don't flame me 
for possibly being off-top, I don't think I need baby stepping through 
this, I simply need to know where to start looking.

Thanks,
Chris

Please disregard, I have 'solved' the issue.

Thank you,
Chris

Christopher L. Wade wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm am currently in the process of trying to integrate an * box with an
> NEC Electra Elite IPK.
> 
> Currently, we have 7 POTS lines coming into our building.  These lines 
> are plugged into our NEC using the appropriate analog line interface 
> card from NEC.  The NEC effectively has NO configuration done to it, 
> other than to make all the internal phones ring when a call comes in. We 
> also have voicemail and an extremely simple auto attendant setup to deal 
> with calls during off hours.
> 
> Due to the cost of all the components/software/consulting needed to make 
> the NEC do everything it needs to do, we are hoping to 'merge' the
NEC
> with an * box.
> 
> In my 'working' * box, I have a wctdm11b (asterisk dev-kit) with 1
FXO
> and 1 FXS card.  I say working, because I have everything setup if I 
> totally bypass the NEC.  As per an email conversation with Digium, we 
> are connecting our POTS line to the FXS card, and the NEC to the FXO card.
> 
> My current dilemma is that when I plug the * box and the NEC together, I 
> cannot get the * box to 'dial' a particular extension on the NEC. 
It is
> my belief that this is due to some configuration changes needing to be 
> made on the NEC.  Unfortunately, this is the exact thing I needed to 
> avoid and the reason for changing from the NEC to * in the first place. 
>  I know some changes to the NEC need to be made, but I am unsure as to 
> exactly what, and how to do it.
> 
> Any input on how to get this working would be greatly appreciated.  If 
> more information is required, please let me know.  Please don't flame
me
> for possibly being off-top, I don't think I need baby stepping through 
> this, I simply need to know where to start looking.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Asterisk-Users mailing list
> Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
>   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
-- 
Christopher L. Wade
Systems Administrator

Unistar-Sparco Computers, Inc.
dba Sparco.com
7089 Ryburn Drive
Millington, TN 38053
USA

Phone: (901) 872 2272
        (800) 840 8400
Fax:   (901) 872 8482
Email: clwade@sparco.com

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 16:34, Christopher L. Wade wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm am currently in the process of trying to integrate an * box with an
> NEC Electra Elite IPK.
> 
> Currently, we have 7 POTS lines coming into our building.  These lines 
> are plugged into our NEC using the appropriate analog line interface 
> card from NEC.  The NEC effectively has NO configuration done to it, 
> other than to make all the internal phones ring when a call comes in. 
> We also have voicemail and an extremely simple auto attendant setup to 
> deal with calls during off hours.
> 
> Due to the cost of all the components/software/consulting needed to make 
> the NEC do everything it needs to do, we are hoping to 'merge' the
NEC
> with an * box.
> 
> In my 'working' * box, I have a wctdm11b (asterisk dev-kit) with 1
FXO
> and 1 FXS card.  I say working, because I have everything setup if I 
> totally bypass the NEC.  As per an email conversation with Digium, we 
> are connecting our POTS line to the FXS card, and the NEC to the FXO card.
> 
> My current dilemma is that when I plug the * box and the NEC together, I 
> cannot get the * box to 'dial' a particular extension on the NEC. 
It is
> my belief that this is due to some configuration changes needing to be 
> made on the NEC.  Unfortunately, this is the exact thing I needed to 
> avoid and the reason for changing from the NEC to * in the first place. 
>   I know some changes to the NEC need to be made, but I am unsure as to 
> exactly what, and how to do it.
> 
> Any input on how to get this working would be greatly appreciated.  If 
> more information is required, please let me know.  Please don't flame
me
> for possibly being off-top, I don't think I need baby stepping through 
> this, I simply need to know where to start looking.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
I know what ya mean .... I've spent nearly $800 in tech time for the Nec
guy to help me get mine going. I have the Eletra 192 functioning right
now, still have some bugs left.... but working. I used an Nec T1 card in
the electra, and a digium t100p in my * box.

Let me know if I can be of any help.

When I get the last of the bugs worked out I plan to write down the
details and put it on the wikki.
t o n y

From: "Christopher L. Wade" <clwade@sparco.com>
Organization: Unistar-Sparco Computers, Inc.
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + NEC Electra Elite IPK Integration
Reply-To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

Exactly which NEC T1 interface did you use?  I'm looking at the DTI-U20,
I don't think I'll need the U30, but I'm not entirely sure.

The U20 will be fine.  The U30 adds MF receivers for Feature Group D/E911.
The T-1 is just set up as E&M tie line.


Good Luck

Jason Kawakami

Open Telephony Labs, LLC

Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:54:44 -0500
From: "Christopher L. Wade" <clwade@sparco.com>
Organization: Unistar-Sparco Computers, Inc.
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + NEC Electra Elite IPK Integration
Reply-To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

Would the TLI(2)-U10 ETU work as well?

That is a 2 port analog tie line card, I don't think that Digium has a card
that can be set up as an analog 4W E&M trunk.

bad idea anyway, the t-1 will be a much better interface and if you ever
press the eject on the IPK you could use the t-1 as a PSTN interface.

> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + NEC Electra Elite IPK Integration
> Reply-To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
>
>>
> I haven't really gotten too far into this, but I was wondering just
what
> 'features' of the NEC phones (DTH-16D-1(BK)TEL) I'll be able to
work
> with from *?  I'm currently getting some pressure to ensure that all
the
> little bells, whistles, and lights will continue to work as they
> currently do.  I'm also afraid that if the phones would end up becoming
> 'dumb' (or should I say dumber than they already are), this could
kill
> my plan for an NEC to * migration, and would be a huge loss for * in my
> company, not to mention a huge extra expenditure for ACD Plus otherwise.
>
> Thankfully, regardless of the outcome of everything else, I will be
> setting up one machine to interact with some IAXy's for remote
extensions.
>
> thanks,
> chris
Chris-

As you feel the screws tighten get used to it.  The DTH phones will only
continue to work as long as the IPK is in place.  * has no facilities to
speak the language that the ESI ports on the IPK use to make all of the
little buttons light up.  you will not be able to use those phones at all
off of an * server.

As I follow the string back this is the first time I see any mention of ACD.
ACD plus is a dog, I sell NEC and wouldn't give ACD plus away.  But in
regards to your statement about cost I have to disagree, for ACD on a system
in the IPK class it is very reasonably priced, but again, I wouldn't spend a
cent on it for my business, I would hang * off of it with a T-1 integration
and do the best I could.  It would still be better than ACD plus and you
would get the voip as well.

NEC just announced a partnership with a company that has a great product, if
you go down the NEC ACD road ask your reseller about the LATEST offering
that NEC has for its ACD systems.  It isn't open source but for a shrink
wrapped product offering it really RAWKS!