Hi!!!! I''ve tried ROR! it''s fantastic!!! wonderful!!! I WANT LEARN ALL ABOUT IT!!! Do you have some links ( if exists in italian language ), or suggest me some book i can buy?? thx very much -- /\/\ariano Di Felice Java PHP Python programmer with MySQL, PostgreSql, SQLite and Oracle support Linux Platform Developer mariano.difelice@gmail.com Tel. 0735 703735 Cell +39 339 6407211 --------------------------------------------------------- NO ai brevetti software! http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com --------------------------------------------------------- Nota di riservatezza: Il presente messaggio, corredato dei relativi allegati contiene informazioni da considerarsi strettamente riservate, ed ? destinato esclusivamente al destinatario sopra indicato, il quale ? l''unico autorizzato ad usarlo, copiarlo e, sotto la propria responsabilit?, diffonderlo. Chiunque ricevesse questo messaggio per errore o comunque lo leggesse senza esserne legittimato ? avvertito che trattenerlo, copiarlo, divulgarlo, distribuirlo a persone diverse dal destinatario ? severamente proibito, ed ? pregato di rinviarlo immediatamente al mittente distruggendo l''originale. Confidentiality Notice: This message, together with its annexes, contains information to be deemed strictly confidential and is destined only to the addressee(s) identified above who only may use, copy and, under his/their responsibility, further disseminate it. If anyone received this message by mistake or reads it without entitlement is forewarned that keeping, copying, disseminating or distributing this message to persons other than the addressee(s) is strictly forbidden and is asked to transmit it immediately to the sender and to erase the original message received. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Mariano, I dont want to sound too much RTFM because this isn''t lile the ROR community but if you browse the RoR web site I''m sure you will find answers to your questions, especially the following link: http://www.rubyonrails.org/docs As for Italian links/books a little googling bring me this: http://www.libreriauniversitaria.it/BIT/8850324553/Sviluppare_applicazioni_web_con_Rails.htm Sounds like you ready to go... Gael On 13/05/06, Mariano Di Felice <mariano.difelice@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi!!!! > I''ve tried ROR! it''s fantastic!!! wonderful!!! > > I WANT LEARN ALL ABOUT IT!!! > > Do you have some links ( if exists in italian language ), or suggest me > some book i can buy?? > > thx very much > -- > /\/\ariano Di Felice > Java PHP Python programmer > with MySQL, PostgreSql, SQLite and Oracle support > Linux Platform Developer > mariano.difelice@gmail.com > Tel. 0735 703735 > Cell +39 339 6407211 > --------------------------------------------------------- > NO ai brevetti software! http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Nota di riservatezza: > Il presente messaggio, corredato dei relativi allegati contiene > informazioni da considerarsi strettamente riservate, ed ? destinato > esclusivamente al destinatario sopra indicato, il quale ? l''unico > autorizzato ad usarlo, copiarlo e, sotto la propria responsabilit?, > diffonderlo. Chiunque ricevesse questo messaggio per errore o comunque > lo leggesse senza esserne legittimato ? avvertito che trattenerlo, > copiarlo, divulgarlo, distribuirlo a persone diverse dal destinatario ? > severamente proibito, ed ? pregato di rinviarlo immediatamente al > mittente distruggendo l''originale. > > Confidentiality Notice: > This message, together with its annexes, contains information to be > deemed strictly confidential and is destined only to the addressee(s) > identified above who only may use, copy and, under his/their > responsibility, further disseminate it. If anyone received this message > by mistake or reads it without entitlement is forewarned that keeping, > copying, disseminating or distributing this message to persons other > than the addressee(s) is strictly forbidden and is asked to transmit it > immediately to the sender and to erase the original message received. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
I don''t imagine there''s very much in Italian. Rails is still relatively new, and the docs in English aren''t particularly good... it''ll be a while before there are substantial docs in other languages. I''m afraid you''ll just have to try and get by in English for now in order to learn rails in detail. -N On 13/05/06, Mariano Di Felice <mariano.difelice@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi!!!! > I''ve tried ROR! it''s fantastic!!! wonderful!!! > > I WANT LEARN ALL ABOUT IT!!! > > Do you have some links ( if exists in italian language ), or suggest me > some book i can buy?? > > thx very much > -- > /\/\ariano Di Felice > Java PHP Python programmer > with MySQL, PostgreSql, SQLite and Oracle support > Linux Platform Developer > mariano.difelice@gmail.com > Tel. 0735 703735 > Cell +39 339 6407211 > --------------------------------------------------------- > NO ai brevetti software! http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Nota di riservatezza: > Il presente messaggio, corredato dei relativi allegati contiene > informazioni da considerarsi strettamente riservate, ed ? destinato > esclusivamente al destinatario sopra indicato, il quale ? l''unico > autorizzato ad usarlo, copiarlo e, sotto la propria responsabilit?, > diffonderlo. Chiunque ricevesse questo messaggio per errore o comunque > lo leggesse senza esserne legittimato ? avvertito che trattenerlo, > copiarlo, divulgarlo, distribuirlo a persone diverse dal destinatario ? > severamente proibito, ed ? pregato di rinviarlo immediatamente al > mittente distruggendo l''originale. > > Confidentiality Notice: > This message, together with its annexes, contains information to be > deemed strictly confidential and is destined only to the addressee(s) > identified above who only may use, copy and, under his/their > responsibility, further disseminate it. If anyone received this message > by mistake or reads it without entitlement is forewarned that keeping, > copying, disseminating or distributing this message to persons other > than the addressee(s) is strictly forbidden and is asked to transmit it > immediately to the sender and to erase the original message received. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
On 5/13/06, Mariano Di Felice <mariano.difelice@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi!!!! > I''ve tried ROR! it''s fantastic!!! wonderful!!! > > I WANT LEARN ALL ABOUT IT!!! > > Do you have some links ( if exists in italian language ), or suggest me > some book i can buy??You can find the good "Agile Web Development with Rails" book in Italian edition: http://www.apogeonline.com/libri/88-503-2455-3/scheda Ciao. -- fabio
buon giorno, I''m a fellow RoR new user...I''m using ''Agile Web Development with Rails'' by Thomas, Hansson etal. ISB N 0-9766940. The publisher is Pragmatic Bookshelf. I don''t think it is in Italian. If you purchase it, send me an email and I''ll give you a few things to look out for. I''m using Windows XP and I ran into a few permissions issues between RoR and MySql that I has to ''work around''. I''m also going thru ''Programming Ruby'' by Thomas [same author] Fowler and Hunt. I''ve also ordered the ''Matz'' [I think he is the originator of either Ruby or Rails] book -- when I get it, I''ll let you know my experience with it...I also ordered an O''Reilly book on Ruby... Ciao, Pat -----Original Message----- From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Mariano Di Felice Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:10 AM To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org Subject: [Rails] new user Hi!!!! I''ve tried ROR! it''s fantastic!!! wonderful!!! I WANT LEARN ALL ABOUT IT!!! Do you have some links ( if exists in italian language ), or suggest me some book i can buy?? thx very much -- /\/\ariano Di Felice Java PHP Python programmer with MySQL, PostgreSql, SQLite and Oracle support Linux Platform Developer mariano.difelice@gmail.com Tel. 0735 703735 Cell +39 339 6407211 --------------------------------------------------------- NO ai brevetti software! http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com --------------------------------------------------------- Nota di riservatezza: Il presente messaggio, corredato dei relativi allegati contiene informazioni da considerarsi strettamente riservate, ed ? destinato esclusivamente al destinatario sopra indicato, il quale ? l''unico autorizzato ad usarlo, copiarlo e, sotto la propria responsabilit?, diffonderlo. Chiunque ricevesse questo messaggio per errore o comunque lo leggesse senza esserne legittimato ? avvertito che trattenerlo, copiarlo, divulgarlo, distribuirlo a persone diverse dal destinatario ? severamente proibito, ed ? pregato di rinviarlo immediatamente al mittente distruggendo l''originale. Confidentiality Notice: This message, together with its annexes, contains information to be deemed strictly confidential and is destined only to the addressee(s) identified above who only may use, copy and, under his/their responsibility, further disseminate it. If anyone received this message by mistake or reads it without entitlement is forewarned that keeping, copying, disseminating or distributing this message to persons other than the addressee(s) is strictly forbidden and is asked to transmit it immediately to the sender and to erase the original message received. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
I reccomend you wait before buying the Agile Development with Rails book. Version 2.0 of the book is coming in a few weeks and it has a lot of improvements. Nevertheless I reccomend it when it comes out. I also bought with it the "Programming Ruby" book by Dave Thomas and that helped me a lot when doing more advanced things. On 5/13/06, Mariano Di Felice <mariano.difelice@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi!!!! > I''ve tried ROR! it''s fantastic!!! wonderful!!! > > I WANT LEARN ALL ABOUT IT!!! > > Do you have some links ( if exists in italian language ), or suggest me > some book i can buy?? > > thx very much > -- > /\/\ariano Di Felice > Java PHP Python programmer > with MySQL, PostgreSql, SQLite and Oracle support > Linux Platform Developer > mariano.difelice@gmail.com > Tel. 0735 703735 > Cell +39 339 6407211 > --------------------------------------------------------- > NO ai brevetti software! http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Nota di riservatezza: > Il presente messaggio, corredato dei relativi allegati contiene > informazioni da considerarsi strettamente riservate, ed ? destinato > esclusivamente al destinatario sopra indicato, il quale ? l''unico > autorizzato ad usarlo, copiarlo e, sotto la propria responsabilit?, > diffonderlo. Chiunque ricevesse questo messaggio per errore o comunque > lo leggesse senza esserne legittimato ? avvertito che trattenerlo, > copiarlo, divulgarlo, distribuirlo a persone diverse dal destinatario ? > severamente proibito, ed ? pregato di rinviarlo immediatamente al > mittente distruggendo l''originale. > > Confidentiality Notice: > This message, together with its annexes, contains information to be > deemed strictly confidential and is destined only to the addressee(s) > identified above who only may use, copy and, under his/their > responsibility, further disseminate it. If anyone received this message > by mistake or reads it without entitlement is forewarned that keeping, > copying, disseminating or distributing this message to persons other > than the addressee(s) is strictly forbidden and is asked to transmit it > immediately to the sender and to erase the original message received. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/
Jon Gretar Borgthorsson wrote:> I reccomend you wait before buying the Agile Development with Rails > book. Version 2.0 of the book is coming in a few weeks and it has a > lot of improvements.It''s in sync with ROR 1.1, isn''t it? If I already have the version 1, would it be wise to buy only the pdf version to quickly read the "new parts" or it has so many changes I would have to read it all again?
Well... Personally I''m buying the tree based version. But thats because I absolutely HATE reading books on the computer. Plus that gives me the old book to give to a friend or another newbie. Biggest problem I''m having with RoR is that there aren''t enough developers to work with so I''m in the process of creating more. ;) It''s not like this is the most expensive book in the world. And the price difference between the PDF and the tree edition is so small that buying the real one is totally worth the money. On 5/14/06, Riko <rik0.py@gmail.com> wrote:> Jon Gretar Borgthorsson wrote: > > > I reccomend you wait before buying the Agile Development with Rails > > book. Version 2.0 of the book is coming in a few weeks and it has a > > lot of improvements. > > It''s in sync with ROR 1.1, isn''t it? > > If I already have the version 1, would it be wise to buy only the pdf > version to quickly read the "new parts" or it has so many changes I > would have to read it all again? > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/
Jon Gretar Borgthorsson wrote:> Well... Personally I''m buying the tree based version. But thats > because I absolutely HATE reading books on the computer.Me too. That''s why I asked how much new stuff it contains. If it''s not much, I can consider reading on screen, otherwise I have to buy on paper.> Plus that > gives me the old book to give to a friend or another newbie. Biggest > problem I''m having with RoR is that there aren''t enough developers to > work with so I''m in the process of creating more. ;)That is quite clever. Un/fortunately my collegues already know Python (I let them know it) and are not a lot into web. And here in Italy from a professional point of you it PHP and Java. And I suppose some MS stuff, but I am not even informed about it. And the only reason why I bought the italian version of Rails book (even if I usually avoid translations) was to show the editor there is interest around Rails here in Italy.> It''s not like this is the most expensive book in the world. And the > price difference between the PDF and the tree edition is so small that > buying the real one is totally worth the money.Yes. But the PDF does not need to fly the ocean :)
Living in Iceland mine only had to fly over half an ocean. :) There is quite a lot of new stuff. But more importantly there are a lot of changes also. So moving between the old book and the new PDF can really increase the risk of missing something important. But since you hate reading from the screen like me then I must reccomend Tofu (http://amarsagoo.info/tofu/index.html). It''s a great column based RTF reader. I use it as default for all .txt and .rtf files and if I''m reading a website with a lot of text I always copy-paste the text into Tofu. Much easier reading text from it. On 5/14/06, Riko <rik0.py@gmail.com> wrote:> Jon Gretar Borgthorsson wrote: > > > Well... Personally I''m buying the tree based version. But thats > > because I absolutely HATE reading books on the computer. > > Me too. That''s why I asked how much new stuff it contains. > If it''s not much, I can consider reading on screen, otherwise I have to > buy on paper. > > > Plus that > > gives me the old book to give to a friend or another newbie. Biggest > > problem I''m having with RoR is that there aren''t enough developers to > > work with so I''m in the process of creating more. ;) > > That is quite clever. Un/fortunately my collegues already know Python (I > let them know it) and are not a lot into web. > > And here in Italy from a professional point of you it PHP and Java. And > I suppose some MS stuff, but I am not even informed about it. > And the only reason why I bought the italian version of Rails book (even > if I usually avoid translations) was to show the editor there is > interest around Rails here in Italy. > > > It''s not like this is the most expensive book in the world. And the > > price difference between the PDF and the tree edition is so small that > > buying the real one is totally worth the money. > > Yes. But the PDF does not need to fly the ocean :) > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/
Jon Gretar Borgthorsson wrote:> Living in Iceland mine only had to fly over half an ocean. :)You are lucky :)> There is quite a lot of new stuff. But more importantly there are a > lot of changes also. So moving between the old book and the new PDF > can really increase the risk of missing something important.Ok. I suppose I have to buy it. I''m not *that* happy about it, since the list of my next purchases is half a book itself. :(> But since you hate reading from the screen like me then I must > reccomend Tofu (http://amarsagoo.info/tofu/index.html). It''s a great > column based RTF reader. I use it as default for all .txt and .rtf > files and if I''m reading a website with a lot of text I always > copy-paste the text into Tofu. Much easier reading text from it.Thank you very much. I downloaded it. -- blog: http://www.akropolix.net/rik0/blogs | site: http://www.akropolix.net/rik0/ | forum: http://www.akropolix.net/forum/ |
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