Xen users - Sep 2005 - tls library message won''t go away

Hello,

I''m trying to upgrade to using the "boxed" xen supported on
FC4
after having it working fine for a while on a manual installation
on FC3.
I upgraded the host operating system with the FC4 cdroms, and
it went mostly fine (after I turned off SElinux...)
Now, when I try to boot one of the provided xen kernels, namely:

vmlinuz-2.6.12-1.1447_FC4xen0

I always get the warning message about the tls libraries,
even though I''m pretty sure I have removed them as advised,
as anyone can plainly see:

[root@zms ~]# find / -noleaf -type d -name "*tls*" 
/etc/pki/tls
/root/disabled/lib.tls.disabled
/root/disabled/usr.lib.tls
/root/disabled/usr.X11R6.lib.tls.disabled
[root@zms ~]#

Please do notice the lengths I went through, and still it complains.

I''ve been outwitted and I''d be most grateful if anyone has
some advice.

Also, the kernel locks freezes up after the domain 0 kernel boots,
just after umounting /proc and /sys from the initrd, but I thought
I''d fight one battle at a time.

Many thanks!



	



	
		
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Ramiro Willmersdorf wrote:

The latest xen fedora 4 rpm are BAD, use the previous ones they work fine.
I had all the same problemes as yours and more, wasted 1 day on it.
++
> Hello,
> 
> I''m trying to upgrade to using the "boxed" xen supported
on FC4
> after having it working fine for a while on a manual installation
> on FC3.
> I upgraded the host operating system with the FC4 cdroms, and
> it went mostly fine (after I turned off SElinux...)
> Now, when I try to boot one of the provided xen kernels, namely:
> 
> vmlinuz-2.6.12-1.1447_FC4xen0
> 
> I always get the warning message about the tls libraries,
> even though I''m pretty sure I have removed them as advised,
> as anyone can plainly see:
> 
> [root@zms ~]# find / -noleaf -type d -name "*tls*" 
> /etc/pki/tls
> /root/disabled/lib.tls.disabled
> /root/disabled/usr.lib.tls
> /root/disabled/usr.X11R6.lib.tls.disabled
> [root@zms ~]#
> 
> Please do notice the lengths I went through, and still it complains.
> 
> I''ve been outwitted and I''d be most grateful if anyone
has some advice.
> 
> Also, the kernel locks freezes up after the domain 0 kernel boots,
> just after umounting /proc and /sys from the initrd, but I thought
> I''d fight one battle at a time.
> 
> Many thanks!
> 
> 
> 
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Which rpm''s do you mean? xen or the kernels?
If it''s the latter, then I think I''m screwed, because the one
I
think is the previous one, 

./updates/packages/kernel-xen0-2.6.12-1.1398_FC4.i686.rpm

reboots the machine as soon as it started by xen, I can''t even read
what''s going on.

The xen package I have installed is:

xen-2-20050823

For the record, I''m running this on a built to order 
machine with 1GB ram, two Athlon MP''s on a MSI-kd7 master
motherboard.

--- Etienne Duguay <eduguay@savetimehosting.net> escreveu:
> The latest xen fedora 4 rpm are BAD, use the previous ones they work
> fine.
> I had all the same problemes as yours and more, wasted 1 day on it.
> ++
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I did, even though I don''t know what it does,
after I found out about it after reading a few months of
old mailing list messages. Domain 0 then boots fine, which is
very nice, but the tls message is still there.

I also read in some other thread someone mentioning that
these messages might not be problematic on FC4, because
the version on glibc there had some built in work around for
Xen, but I could not find a conclusive reply, so basically
now I''m wondering should I or shouldn''t I worry...

I''m typing this on the very system this is happening and it
doesn''t seem to be any slower than usual :)


--- Ted Kaczmarek <tedkaz@optonline.net> escreveu:
> 
> Did you try passing vdso=0 to the kernel module?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Ted


	


	
		
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2005, Ramiro Willmersdorf wrote:
> Now, when I try to boot one of the provided xen kernels, namely:
> 
> vmlinuz-2.6.12-1.1447_FC4xen0
> 
> I always get the warning message about the tls libraries,
Do you get them from your initrd ?

Btw, there is no need to worry about these as the vsyscall
page tells glibc to use the variant that has does not do
negative segment offsets.

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Ramiro Willmersdorf wrote:
> Which rpm''s do you mean? xen or the kernels?
> If it''s the latter, then I think I''m screwed, because the
one I
> think is the previous one, 
> 
> ./updates/packages/kernel-xen0-2.6.12-1.1398_FC4.i686.rpm
> 
> reboots the machine as soon as it started by xen, I can''t even
read
> what''s going on.
> 
> The xen package I have installed is:
> 
> xen-2-20050823
I did not try any combinations or permutations, I''ve just reverted back
to
previous working setup, namelly all older packages, xen, the xen kernel (0 and
U).

++
> 
> For the record, I''m running this on a built to order 
> machine with 1GB ram, two Athlon MP''s on a MSI-kd7 master
> motherboard.
> 
> --- Etienne Duguay <eduguay@savetimehosting.net> escreveu:
> 
> 
>>The latest xen fedora 4 rpm are BAD, use the previous ones they work
>>fine.
>>I had all the same problemes as yours and more, wasted 1 day on it.
>>++
>>
> 
> 
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Yes, at least I think so, I get them both for Domain 0 and the
guest domains, and I don''t have tls libraries anywhere.

For the guest domains, it''s easier to read them, and in the
middle of the message, there is something like:

Offending process: udev (xx)

or

Offending proccess: hotplug (xx)

or 

Offending process: init (xx)

I can''t be more precise because I''m typing this from memory,
and different domains gave different messages (they are different
distributions).

I think that perhaps I should *not* be running udev, hotplug, etc,
in a guest domain. It was working before so I just left them in,
but I''m very open to suggestions.
On the other hand, if ''init'' is causing the message,
it''s hardly
likely I can avoid running it :)

Thanks for confirming that message is harmless!

Anyway, I got it running with the 1.1447_FC4 kernels and
xen-2-20050823, but I had to create the directories:

/var/run/xenstored
/var/lib/xenstored

by hand so xend would start. That was not so easy to track down!
It took a bit of strace (out of habit) and source reading
(many thanks for writing it in python!) to find out why xend was
getting stuck in a loop.

I don''t know if these directories were not created because I
upgraded from FC3 and did not do a fresh install, but I think this
could be a show stopper for some people.

Thanks for all involved! It''s not 100% up yet because I had some
issues with the file system, possibly unrelated to Xen.

--- Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> escreveu:
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2005, Ramiro Willmersdorf wrote:
> 
> > Now, when I try to boot one of the provided xen kernels, namely:
> > 
> > vmlinuz-2.6.12-1.1447_FC4xen0
> > 
> > I always get the warning message about the tls libraries,
> 
> Do you get them from your initrd ?
> 
> Btw, there is no need to worry about these as the vsyscall
> page tells glibc to use the variant that has does not do
> negative segment offsets.
> 
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