rspec users - Mar 2009 - How to use different mocking frameworks?

Hi,

I''m pretty new to Rspec, so hope someone can help me out with this.

I''m leveraging a couple pre-existing applications in my current
project, both have fairly robust test suites in Rspec already.
However, one is using Rspec''s builit in mocking, and the other is
using mocha.

If I set config.mock_with mocha in spec_helper.rb, then all of the
rspec mocks fail.  If I comment this out, all of the specs with mocha
fail.

Is there some way to set the mocking framework on a test and/or file
basis?  I''ve been all over Google, and can''t seem to find a
resolution
to this.  I really don''t want to have to back through and rewrite
someone else''s test suite that is already working.

Thanks in advance for your help,
Val

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Val <vagostino at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I''m pretty new to Rspec, so hope someone can help me out with
this.
>
> I''m leveraging a couple pre-existing applications in my current
> project, both have fairly robust test suites in Rspec already.
> However, one is using Rspec''s builit in mocking, and the other is
> using mocha.
>
> If I set config.mock_with mocha in spec_helper.rb, then all of the
> rspec mocks fail. ?If I comment this out, all of the specs with mocha
> fail.
>
> Is there some way to set the mocking framework on a test and/or file
> basis?
Nope. Gotta pick one or the other. Reason - diff mock frameworks
invade Object in diff ways - mixing and matching is dangerous to your
health.
> I''ve been all over Google, and can''t seem to find a
resolution
> to this. ?I really don''t want to have to back through and rewrite
> someone else''s test suite that is already working.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> Val
> _______________________________________________
> rspec-users mailing list
> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
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>

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at
gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Val <vagostino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I''m pretty new to Rspec, so hope someone can help me out with
this.
>>
>> I''m leveraging a couple pre-existing applications in my
current
>> project, both have fairly robust test suites in Rspec already.
>> However, one is using Rspec''s builit in mocking, and the other
is
>> using mocha.
>>
>> If I set config.mock_with mocha in spec_helper.rb, then all of the
>> rspec mocks fail. ?If I comment this out, all of the specs with mocha
>> fail.
>>
>> Is there some way to set the mocking framework on a test and/or file
>> basis?
>
> Nope. Gotta pick one or the other. Reason - diff mock frameworks
> invade Object in diff ways - mixing and matching is dangerous to your
> health.
I mean within one project. Of course you can use rspec/mocks in one,
mocha in another, flexmock and rr in others.
>
>> I''ve been all over Google, and can''t seem to find a
resolution
>> to this. ?I really don''t want to have to back through and
rewrite
>> someone else''s test suite that is already working.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help,
>> Val
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>
>

Would it be possible to split the tests into separate runs - a bit like
having two different run configurations with cucumber?

2009/3/15 David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at
gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Val <vagostino at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I''m pretty new to Rspec, so hope someone can help me out
with this.
> >>
> >> I''m leveraging a couple pre-existing applications in my
current
> >> project, both have fairly robust test suites in Rspec already.
> >> However, one is using Rspec''s builit in mocking, and the
other is
> >> using mocha.
> >>
> >> If I set config.mock_with mocha in spec_helper.rb, then all of the
> >> rspec mocks fail.  If I comment this out, all of the specs with
mocha
> >> fail.
> >>
> >> Is there some way to set the mocking framework on a test and/or
file
> >> basis?
> >
> > Nope. Gotta pick one or the other. Reason - diff mock frameworks
> > invade Object in diff ways - mixing and matching is dangerous to your
> > health.
>
> I mean within one project. Of course you can use rspec/mocks in one,
> mocha in another, flexmock and rr in others.
>
> >
> >> I''ve been all over Google, and can''t seem to
find a resolution
> >> to this.  I really don''t want to have to back through and
rewrite
> >> someone else''s test suite that is already working.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for your help,
> >> Val
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> rspec-users mailing list
> >> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> >>
> >
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On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Would it be possible to split the tests into separate runs - a bit like
> having two different run configurations with cucumber?
If you split the specs w/ rspec-mocks and those w/ mocha in separate
dirs, you could run them each manually. Or you could create rake tasks
to do it.
>
> 2009/3/15 David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at
gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Val <vagostino at
gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I''m pretty new to Rspec, so hope someone can help me
out with this.
>> >>
>> >> I''m leveraging a couple pre-existing applications in
my current
>> >> project, both have fairly robust test suites in Rspec already.
>> >> However, one is using Rspec''s builit in mocking, and
the other is
>> >> using mocha.
>> >>
>> >> If I set config.mock_with mocha in spec_helper.rb, then all of
the
>> >> rspec mocks fail. ?If I comment this out, all of the specs
with mocha
>> >> fail.
>> >>
>> >> Is there some way to set the mocking framework on a test
and/or file
>> >> basis?
>> >
>> > Nope. Gotta pick one or the other. Reason - diff mock frameworks
>> > invade Object in diff ways - mixing and matching is dangerous to
your
>> > health.
>>
>> I mean within one project. Of course you can use rspec/mocks in one,
>> mocha in another, flexmock and rr in others.
>>
>> >
>> >> I''ve been all over Google, and can''t seem to
find a resolution
>> >> to this. ?I really don''t want to have to back through
and rewrite
>> >> someone else''s test suite that is already working.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance for your help,
>> >> Val
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> rspec-users mailing list
>> >> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>> >>
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> rspec-users mailing list
>> rspec-users at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
>
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Okay.  Thanks for your responses.

I guess I''ll try splitting them into separate directories.  Will each
directory automatically include it''s own spec_helper.rb?

On Mar 15, 6:09?am, David Chelimsky <dchelim... at gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Andrew Premdas <aprem... at
gmail.com> wrote:
> > Would it be possible to split the tests into separate runs - a bit
like
> > having two different run configurations with cucumber?
>
> If you split the specs w/ rspec-mocks and those w/ mocha in separate
> dirs, you could run them each manually. Or you could create rake tasks
> to do it.
>
>
>
>
>
> > 2009/3/15 David Chelimsky <dchelim... at gmail.com>
>
> >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM, David Chelimsky <dchelim...
at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Val <vagost... at
gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
>
> >> >> I''m pretty new to Rspec, so hope someone can
help me out with this.
>
> >> >> I''m leveraging a couple pre-existing
applications in my current
> >> >> project, both have fairly robust test suites in Rspec
already.
> >> >> However, one is using Rspec''s builit in mocking,
and the other is
> >> >> using mocha.
>
> >> >> If I set config.mock_with mocha in spec_helper.rb, then
all of the
> >> >> rspec mocks fail. ?If I comment this out, all of the
specs with mocha
> >> >> fail.
>
> >> >> Is there some way to set the mocking framework on a test
and/or file
> >> >> basis?
>
> >> > Nope. Gotta pick one or the other. Reason - diff mock
frameworks
> >> > invade Object in diff ways - mixing and matching is dangerous
to your
> >> > health.
>
> >> I mean within one project. Of course you can use rspec/mocks in
one,
> >> mocha in another, flexmock and rr in others.
>
> >> >> I''ve been all over Google, and can''t
seem to find a resolution
> >> >> to this. ?I really don''t want to have to back
through and rewrite
> >> >> someone else''s test suite that is already
working.
>
> >> >> Thanks in advance for your help,
> >> >> Val
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> rspec-users mailing list
> >> >> rspec-us... at rubyforge.org
> >> >>http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> rspec-us... at rubyforge.org
> >>http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>
> > _______________________________________________
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> > rspec-us... at rubyforge.org
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On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Val <vagostino at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Okay. ?Thanks for your responses.
>
> I guess I''ll try splitting them into separate directories. ?Will
each
> directory automatically include it''s own spec_helper.rb?
Not sure I understand that question. You''re going to be manually
splitting things up, right?
>
> On Mar 15, 6:09?am, David Chelimsky <dchelim... at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Andrew Premdas <aprem... at
gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Would it be possible to split the tests into separate runs - a bit
like
>> > having two different run configurations with cucumber?
>>
>> If you split the specs w/ rspec-mocks and those w/ mocha in separate
>> dirs, you could run them each manually. Or you could create rake tasks
>> to do it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > 2009/3/15 David Chelimsky <dchelim... at gmail.com>
>>
>> >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM, David Chelimsky
<dchelim... at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Val <vagost... at
gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Hi,
>>
>> >> >> I''m pretty new to Rspec, so hope someone can
help me out with this.
>>
>> >> >> I''m leveraging a couple pre-existing
applications in my current
>> >> >> project, both have fairly robust test suites in Rspec
already.
>> >> >> However, one is using Rspec''s builit in
mocking, and the other is
>> >> >> using mocha.
>>
>> >> >> If I set config.mock_with mocha in spec_helper.rb,
then all of the
>> >> >> rspec mocks fail. ?If I comment this out, all of the
specs with mocha
>> >> >> fail.
>>
>> >> >> Is there some way to set the mocking framework on a
test and/or file
>> >> >> basis?
>>
>> >> > Nope. Gotta pick one or the other. Reason - diff mock
frameworks
>> >> > invade Object in diff ways - mixing and matching is
dangerous to your
>> >> > health.
>>
>> >> I mean within one project. Of course you can use rspec/mocks
in one,
>> >> mocha in another, flexmock and rr in others.
>>
>> >> >> I''ve been all over Google, and
can''t seem to find a resolution
>> >> >> to this. ?I really don''t want to have to
back through and rewrite
>> >> >> someone else''s test suite that is already
working.
>>
>> >> >> Thanks in advance for your help,
>> >> >> Val
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> rspec-users mailing list
>> >> >> rspec-us... at rubyforge.org
>> >> >>http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> rspec-users mailing list
>> >> rspec-us... at rubyforge.org
>> >>http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > rspec-users mailing list
>> > rspec-us... at rubyforge.org
>> >http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> rspec-us... at
rubyforge.orghttp://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
> _______________________________________________
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Val wrote:
> Okay.  Thanks for your responses.
>
> I guess I''ll try splitting them into separate directories.  Will
each
> directory automatically include it''s own spec_helper.rb?
>   
Are you using any features from one mock framework that aren''t present 
in the other?  If not, potentially you could, with some regexp prowess, 
rewrite all the mocks of one mocking framework to conform to the syntax 
of another.

Scott
> On Mar 15, 6:09 am, David Chelimsky <dchelim... at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Andrew Premdas <aprem... at
gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Would it be possible to split the tests into separate runs - a bit
like
>>> having two different run configurations with cucumber?
>>>       
>> If you split the specs w/ rspec-mocks and those w/ mocha in separate
>> dirs, you could run them each manually. Or you could create rake tasks
>> to do it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>>> 2009/3/15 David Chelimsky <dchelim... at gmail.com>
>>>       
>>>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM, David Chelimsky
<dchelim... at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Val <vagost... at
gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>             
>>>>>> I''m pretty new to Rspec, so hope someone can
help me out with this.
>>>>>>             
>>>>>> I''m leveraging a couple pre-existing
applications in my current
>>>>>> project, both have fairly robust test suites in Rspec
already.
>>>>>> However, one is using Rspec''s builit in
mocking, and the other is
>>>>>> using mocha.
>>>>>>             
>>>>>> If I set config.mock_with mocha in spec_helper.rb, then
all of the
>>>>>> rspec mocks fail.  If I comment this out, all of the
specs with mocha
>>>>>> fail.
>>>>>>             
>>>>>> Is there some way to set the mocking framework on a
test and/or file
>>>>>> basis?
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Nope. Gotta pick one or the other. Reason - diff mock
frameworks
>>>>> invade Object in diff ways - mixing and matching is
dangerous to your
>>>>> health.
>>>>>           
>>>> I mean within one project. Of course you can use rspec/mocks in
one,
>>>> mocha in another, flexmock and rr in others.
>>>>         
>>>>>> I''ve been all over Google, and can''t
seem to find a resolution
>>>>>> to this.  I really don''t want to have to back
through and rewrite
>>>>>> someone else''s test suite that is already
working.
>>>>>>             
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help,
>>>>>> Val
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> rspec-users mailing list
>>>>>> rspec-us... at rubyforge.org
>>>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>>>>>             
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> rspec-users mailing list
>>>> rspec-us... at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
>>>>         
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> rspec-users mailing list
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>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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>>     
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