Ok, commited a few modifications to mongrel_rails_svc (revision 59). For the ones running from svn, please do a update and take a look into it. Good news: services now start and stop ok from controller or net commands. Other good news: done some refactoring to the code into _svc file to create a RailsMongrel class. This class perform whatever you need to start a rails app powered by mongrel. Could be used as base for scripts later. Take a look at the command "debug" into _svc, soemthing similar you could use in your scripts. The bad news? I guess there isn''t one :-D Ok, update, test and provide feedback. service still generate debug.log and debug-thread.log where it is located. Please include these files when reporting problems. Hopefully if everythings goes ok, that will be removed before next release. -- Luis