I have successfully set up a system with Ices0.4 and IceCast2.20 (and Tunez). It plays well using mpg123 or WinAmp. But I would like to use also my KiSS DVD player for the stream, and I have not been able to do so - It appearently needs 110% SHOUTcast compatibility. So I tried the IceCast2.3.1 - but it still didn't like the KiSS (or the other way around). In stead, I have added a SHOUTcast server as a relay on the same machine. The KiSS can connect to this, and the SHOUTcast to Icecast in shoutcast mode (and using an alias for the mountpoint). But sometimes, primarily at a change of song on the Ices, the SHOUTcast stops streaming, and all clients reconnects a few times, and then play on. The whole thing does not seem particularly stable. Can this be beacuse of bitrate changes? To do something about it, I have tried to connect the IceS directly to the SHOUTcast server, but I cannot get it to connect (using "icy" protocol and so, but still..) Must the mountpoint be "/" or is there other tricks? Will it stabilize it more if I re-encode the stream in IceS? I have all sorts of (stereo) bitrates, including variable ones.. Re-encoding will cost CPU power, so I would rather be without.. The very best would be to connect the KiSS to the IceCast server, which seems very stable when using WinAmp. Does anybody have a clue why this is not working? Can I make the IceCast even more shoutcast-compatible? Regards Henrik
Hi!
You can try to do this
KisS->ShoutCast->Icecast2
winamp->Icecast2(same)
HsM> I have successfully set up a system with Ices0.4 and IceCast2.20 (and
HsM> Tunez). It plays well using mpg123 or WinAmp.
HsM>
HsM> But I would like to use also my KiSS DVD player for the stream, and I
have
HsM> not been able to do so - It appearently needs 110% SHOUTcast
HsM> compatibility.
HsM>
HsM> So I tried the IceCast2.3.1 - but it still didn't like the KiSS (or
the
HsM> other way around). In stead, I have added a SHOUTcast server as a relay
on
HsM> the same machine. The KiSS can connect to this, and the SHOUTcast to
HsM> Icecast in shoutcast mode (and using an alias for the mountpoint).
HsM>
HsM> But sometimes, primarily at a change of song on the Ices, the SHOUTcast
HsM> stops streaming, and all clients reconnects a few times, and then play
on.
HsM> The whole thing does not seem particularly stable. Can this be beacuse
of
HsM> bitrate changes?
HsM>
HsM> To do something about it, I have tried to connect the IceS directly to
the
HsM> SHOUTcast server, but I cannot get it to connect (using "icy"
protocol and
HsM> so, but still..) Must the mountpoint be "/" or is there other
tricks?
HsM>
HsM> Will it stabilize it more if I re-encode the stream in IceS? I have all
HsM> sorts of (stereo) bitrates, including variable ones.. Re-encoding will
HsM> cost CPU power, so I would rather be without..
HsM>
HsM> The very best would be to connect the KiSS to the IceCast server, which
HsM> seems very stable when using WinAmp. Does anybody have a clue why this
is
HsM> not working? Can I make the IceCast even more shoutcast-compatible?
HsM>
HsM> Regards
HsM>
HsM> Henrik
HsM>
HsM>
HsM>
HsM> _______________________________________________
HsM> Icecast mailing list
HsM> Icecast@xiph.org
HsM> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
HsM>
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Hi,
The problem the other way around:
IceS -> IceCast -> ShoutCast -> KiSS
(the KiSS then decodes the mp3 to a RAW SPDIF stream, which is received
by my sourround receiver).
But the constallation is somewhat overkill and slightly unstable, so I would
prefer just
IceS -> IceCast -> KiSS
But that does not work at all for unknown reasons (since shoutcast can do
this, and the KiSS is supposed to be shoutcast compatible..)
As a secondary solution, the following could be used:
IceS -> ShoutCast -> KiSS
But here the IceS cannot connect to the ShoutCast - which it should! I
probably have overlooked something here.. and any guesses are welcome..
Regards
Henrik
Date sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:38:22 +0200 (EET)
From: "Andrew V. Kuzik" <kuzik@cad.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua>
To: Henrik ?stergaard Madsen <Henrik@Ostergaard.net>
Copies to: icecast@xiph.org
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Ices0 and ShoutCast (and KiSS)
Hi!
You can try to do this
KisS->ShoutCast->Icecast2
winamp->Icecast2(same)
What do you think about this ?
HsM> I have successfully set up a system with Ices0.4 and IceCast2.20 (and
HsM> Tunez). It plays well using mpg123 or WinAmp.
HsM>
HsM> But I would like to use also my KiSS DVD player for the stream, and I
have
HsM> not been able to do so - It appearently needs 110% SHOUTcast
HsM> compatibility.
HsM>
HsM> So I tried the IceCast2.3.1 - but it still didn't like the KiSS (or
the
HsM> other way around). In stead, I have added a SHOUTcast server as a relay
on
HsM> the same machine. The KiSS can connect to this, and the SHOUTcast to
HsM> Icecast in shoutcast mode (and using an alias for the mountpoint).
HsM>
HsM> But sometimes, primarily at a change of song on the Ices, the SHOUTcast
HsM> stops streaming, and all clients reconnects a few times, and then play
on.
HsM> The whole thing does not seem particularly stable. Can this be beacuse
of
HsM> bitrate changes?
HsM>
HsM> To do something about it, I have tried to connect the IceS directly to
the
HsM> SHOUTcast server, but I cannot get it to connect (using "icy"
protocol and
HsM> so, but still..) Must the mountpoint be "/" or is there other
tricks?
HsM>
HsM> Will it stabilize it more if I re-encode the stream in IceS? I have all
HsM> sorts of (stereo) bitrates, including variable ones.. Re-encoding will
HsM> cost CPU power, so I would rather be without..
HsM>
HsM> The very best would be to connect the KiSS to the IceCast server, which
HsM> seems very stable when using WinAmp. Does anybody have a clue why this
is
HsM> not working? Can I make the IceCast even more shoutcast-compatible?
HsM>
HsM> Regards
HsM>
HsM> Henrik
HsM>
HsM>
HsM>
HsM> _______________________________________________
HsM> Icecast mailing list
HsM> Icecast@xiph.org
HsM> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
HsM>
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?? ??? ??????? ????????? ????, ??? ??? ????????????? ??????
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On Tuesday, 13 December 2005 at 20:22, Henrik Ostergaard Madsen wrote:> As a secondary solution, the following could be used: > > IceS -> ShoutCast -> KiSS > > But here the IceS cannot connect to the ShoutCast - which it should! I > probably have overlooked something here.. and any guesses are welcome..IWFM. You'll just have to go through the logs on both ends (run ices in verbose mode). Protocol should be icy as you say, and the mountpoint should be / (shoutcast doesn't support mount points). Also check the port setting, try +/- 1 if you are getting errors connecting.