Icecast - Dec 2004 - Still the big Icecast problem!

1) Is it possible when using the mp3 steam not to have the ( data ) in the tag
line like you can do with ogg
2) Can the meta-tag-refresh tag which is in the 2.0KH58 be put in the new 2.2.0
version.


Thanks


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Helo, fellows,

Although I have researched a lot about this matter I
still didn't find any good solution.

The problem with Icecast OGG system is that common
people doesn't want to download any other software in
order to listen to a radio station, even a plugin...

People doesn't like to have to download Quicktime, nor
Winamp. They already have Windows Media Player on
their computers, so they already listen to LAUNCHCAST
for instance...

I agree that Ogg files quality have no comparison with
the old Mp3. Ogg mono files at 32k - 44.1khz is very
near CD quality. I would become a satisfied listener
with radios at 32k -44.1khz.

The problem is making Windows media Player to play it!
And this may not have any solution.

I got to solve this problem on Shoutcast systems which
broadcast in MP3. I got to make WMP play the MP3
stream very easy, without a listener having to
download anything.
If people want to know how, I suggest looking my
website:

www.portaldojazz.com

I have Icecast streams also, which have much more
quality, but I can see, I have 10 listeners of
MP3-WMP, while having 1 Icecast listener, and I guess
the only explanation to this is that people listen to
it with WMP.


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On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 10:00:19PM -0300, Mr Dihelson Mendonca wrote:
> The problem with Icecast OGG system is that common
> people doesn't want to download any other software in
> order to listen to a radio station, even a plugin...
Of course. But that's not the whole story. Microsoft only
supports MP3 because so many people listen to mp3 radio
stations and files. And before Window Media Player played
MP3, everyone had winamp installed because the nearest 
teenager (if I may) had installed it as a way to listen to 
cool--or at least free--music.

So, the more content is available in ogg, and the more
good and popular content that is available *only* in ogg,
the more people will install the players, and the more
vendors will ship support so their customers won't have
to.
> The problem is making Windows media Player to play it!
> And this may not have any solution.
There are plugins at http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/
you might give those a try.

Hopefully once they're stablized we can finally get
on the autodownload program and all this will go away.
Although people tell me it doesn't actually work.

 -r

This is a player that I use on my site.  It works well with Ogg and mp3.  
I have tested it with windoze, Fedora, and Netscape/SunOS.

http://www.javazoom.net/jlgui/jlgui.html

Cheers!
Kent


On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Mr Dihelson Mendonca wrote:
> Helo, fellows,
> 
> Although I have researched a lot about this matter I
> still didn't find any good solution.
> 
> The problem with Icecast OGG system is that common
> people doesn't want to download any other software in
> order to listen to a radio station, even a plugin...
> 
> People doesn't like to have to download Quicktime, nor
> Winamp. They already have Windows Media Player on
> their computers, so they already listen to LAUNCHCAST
> for instance...
> 
> I agree that Ogg files quality have no comparison with
> the old Mp3. Ogg mono files at 32k - 44.1khz is very
> near CD quality. I would become a satisfied listener
> with radios at 32k -44.1khz.
> 
> The problem is making Windows media Player to play it!
> And this may not have any solution.
> 
> I got to solve this problem on Shoutcast systems which
> broadcast in MP3. I got to make WMP play the MP3
> stream very easy, without a listener having to
> download anything.
> If people want to know how, I suggest looking my
> website:
> 
> www.portaldojazz.com
> 
> I have Icecast streams also, which have much more
> quality, but I can see, I have 10 listeners of
> MP3-WMP, while having 1 Icecast listener, and I guess
> the only explanation to this is that people listen to
> it with WMP.
> 
> 
> []'s
> Dihelson mendon?a
> 
> 
> 
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