I've just released ices 0.3: http://icecast.org/files/ices/ices-0.3.tar.gz ices 0.3 is an encoder for icecast-compatible servers (including icecast 2, icecast 1 and shoutcast). It requires libshout 2.0. ices 0.3 outputs MP3, not Vorbis. For Vorbis you will need ices 2. We know this is confusing, so ices 0.x will probably have a new name for the next release. Ideas? Changes since ices 0.2.3: * uses libshout 2.0 * lots of bug fixes * VBR support * ID3v2 support * trims junk from MP3 files * much more stable All users of ices 0.2.3 are encouraged to upgrade. -b --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Sunday, 13 July 2003 at 23:24, Stefan Neufeind wrote:> On 13 Jul 2003 at 14:45, Brendan Cully wrote: > > > ices 0.3 outputs MP3, not Vorbis. For Vorbis you will need ices > > 2. We know this is confusing, so ices 0.x will probably have a new > > name for the next release. Ideas? > > I'm glad to hear that 0.x is still maintained and, as it seems, still > updates. Well, but why don't you just integrate 2.x and 0.x into each > other, I mean, use 2.x as a "major brandnew rewrite" of 0.x and > simply add MP3-support (just an option to link against lame) to 2.x? > It would be up to every user if he / she wants to live with the legal > "problems" connected with MP3 or not. But where's the problem? Does > maintaining two separate tools doing almost the same make that much > sence?I'm speaking for myself and not in any way for xiph.org: I think this is a reasonable suggestion. I now remember that my original goal when I started working on ices 0.3 was to get one last stable, fairly complete version out the door that worked with current Xiph software (libshout 2 and icecast 2). That is, I wanted something that wasn't deprecated for the users out there who still need to stream MP3 (I'm one of them). Now that I think that's done, I personally like the idea of providing MP3 support for ices 2. I have some ideas about how to do it fairly cleanly, though I haven't read the ices2 code in any detail. But, whether this happens depends not just on the code getting written, but on whether other Xiph developers are willing to lend any more aid and shelter to the proprietary MP3 format and its litigious owners. My personal perspective may tend more toward the practical and the short term than theirs, but I can certainly understand if they don't want to include MP3 support in any new code. If I didn't have other people depending on an ices with MP3 support, I might feel the same way myself. -b --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Monday, 14 July 2003 at 13:16, Jan-Erik Moon wrote:> From: "Brendan Cully" <brendan@xiph.org> > To: <icecast@xiph.org> > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:45 PM > Subject: [icecast] ices 0.3 released > > > > icecast 2, icecast 1 and shoutcast). It requires libshout 2.0. > > I didn't see any switches that would allow me to specify libshout directory?No you didn't. The new libshout installs a pkgconfig or shout-config helper program. You can tell ices where to find these by altering PKG_CONFIG_PATH or PATH when running configure (depending on whether or not your system has pkgconfig). -b --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On 13 Jul 2003 at 14:45, Brendan Cully wrote:> ices 0.3 outputs MP3, not Vorbis. For Vorbis you will need ices > 2. We know this is confusing, so ices 0.x will probably have a new > name for the next release. Ideas?I'm glad to hear that 0.x is still maintained and, as it seems, still updates. Well, but why don't you just integrate 2.x and 0.x into each other, I mean, use 2.x as a "major brandnew rewrite" of 0.x and simply add MP3-support (just an option to link against lame) to 2.x? It would be up to every user if he / she wants to live with the legal "problems" connected with MP3 or not. But where's the problem? Does maintaining two separate tools doing almost the same make that much sence? <p>Just my 2 cents. Sorry if it might sound aggressive, wasn't intended! Stefan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Monday, 14 July 2003 at 00:47, gtgbr@gmx.net wrote:> Hi Brendan! > > > Brendan Cully wrote: > > I've just released ices 0.3: > > Sorry for neglecting to test an ices 0.3 beta. ;PWell, since this was an update to 0.2.3, the beta period didn't seem as necessary. But you have a point.> Although I haven't actually run ices 0, yet, I found a glitch in the > installation... --with-docdir is almost always needed, unless you use a > non-standard *nix clone (I suppose). By default, ices puts its docs into > /usr/local/doc/ices, while it *should* go into > /usr/local/share/doc/ices.I should change that.> Also, --sysconfdir seems to be ignored, I > haven't managed to install ices.conf.dist anywhere but /etc. :-/This I can't reproduce. In fact I use a non-standard sysconfdir in my own installs.> Otherwise it appears to be compiling just fine, and I'm working on a > flavored port to OpenBSD for ices0. :)excellent, thanks. -b --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Cully" <brendan@xiph.org> To: <icecast@xiph.org> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:45 PM Subject: [icecast] ices 0.3 released <p>> icecast 2, icecast 1 and shoutcast). It requires libshout 2.0. I didn't see any switches that would allow me to specify libshout directory? Jan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
* Stefan Neufeind <stefan@neufeind.net> shaped the electrons to say...> > ices 0.3 outputs MP3, not Vorbis. For Vorbis you will need ices > > 2. We know this is confusing, so ices 0.x will probably have a new > > name for the next release. Ideas? > > I'm glad to hear that 0.x is still maintained and, as it seems, still > updates. Well, but why don't you just integrate 2.x and 0.x into each > other, I mean, use 2.x as a "major brandnew rewrite" of 0.x and > simply add MP3-support (just an option to link against lame) to 2.x? > It would be up to every user if he / she wants to live with the legal > "problems" connected with MP3 or not. But where's the problem? Does > maintaining two separate tools doing almost the same make that much > sence? > > Just my 2 cents. Sorry if it might sound aggressive, wasn't intended!I quite agree - it's frustrating to be able to use software that's almost there, then have all the development move to a format that 90% of the applications/embedded systems don't yet support. -D -- If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Hi Brendan! <p>Brendan Cully wrote:> I've just released ices 0.3:Sorry for neglecting to test an ices 0.3 beta. ;P Although I haven't actually run ices 0, yet, I found a glitch in the installation... --with-docdir is almost always needed, unless you use a non-standard *nix clone (I suppose). By default, ices puts its docs into /usr/local/doc/ices, while it *should* go into /usr/local/share/doc/ices. Also, --sysconfdir seems to be ignored, I haven't managed to install ices.conf.dist anywhere but /etc. :-/ Otherwise it appears to be compiling just fine, and I'm working on a flavored port to OpenBSD for ices0. :) <p>Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.