Hi folks, I''m conducting a straw poll for your opinions on whether we should send CVS commit logs (probably with diffs) to the shorewall-devel list, or to another (new) list? I can see advantages to both ways: separate lists mean that people who aren''t contributing code don''t get flooded with code noise, but a single list will help keep everyone involved in the development up-to-date on what''s really happening. Suggested names for a separate list: shorewall-cvs (probably not good as we may not always use CVS) shorewall-commits (OK, i guess) shorewall-patches (probably a little too specific) shorewall-coding/code (probably my preference) Which do folks prefer? I''m marginally more inclined towards two separate lists, one for people actually coding, and one for others involved in the general development of the project (e.g. web site, hosting, mirroring, etc.). A rule of thumb with this setup would be that people with write access to CVS would need to be on the coding list, whereas people on the devel list would not necessarily be. Votes, please, along with an indication of which lists you would subscribe to, if there were two. -- Paul <http://paulgear.webhop.net> -- Did you know? Most email-borne viruses use a false sender address, so you cannot track down the sender using that address. Instead, keep your virus scanning software up-to-date and just delete any suspicious emails you receive. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-devel/attachments/20050526/d02a43f6/signature.bin
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Paul Gear wrote:> I''m conducting a straw poll for your opinions on whether we should send > CVS commit logs (probably with diffs) to the shorewall-devel list, or to > another (new) list?Please, use separate list for commits. I''d subscribe to both lists. - -- Tuomo Soini <tis@foobar.fi> Linux and network services +358 40 5240030 Foobar Oy <http://foobar.fi/> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFClaNrTlrZKzwul1ERAojbAKCOoLILI8khEwTiH+p8t9b3w6Ah3ACgksdH 0FbHoSobEGWtsWPTrYb8lS8=WJoI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 02:13, Paul Gear wrote:> I''m conducting a straw poll for your opinions on whether we should send > CVS commit logs (probably with diffs) to the shorewall-devel list, or to > another (new) list?Paul, My preference is a separate cvs-commits list. BTW, do you plan on accepting patches in the SF tracker? https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=22587 -- Mike Noyes <mhnoyes at users.sourceforge.net> http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ SF.net Projects: leaf, phpwebsite, phpwebsite-comm, sitedocs
2005/5/26, Paul Gear <paul@gear.dyndns.org>:> Hi folks, > > I''m conducting a straw poll for your opinions on whether we should send > CVS commit logs (probably with diffs) to the shorewall-devel list, or to > another (new) list? > > I can see advantages to both ways: separate lists mean that people who > aren''t contributing code don''t get flooded with code noise, but a single > list will help keep everyone involved in the development up-to-date on > what''s really happening. > > Suggested names for a separate list: > shorewall-cvs (probably not good as we may not always use CVS) > shorewall-commits (OK, i guess) > shorewall-patches (probably a little too specific) > shorewall-coding/code (probably my preference) > > Which do folks prefer? I''m marginally more inclined towards two > separate lists, one for people actually coding, and one for others > involved in the general development of the project (e.g. web site, > hosting, mirroring, etc.). A rule of thumb with this setup would be > that people with write access to CVS would need to be on the coding > list, whereas people on the devel list would not necessarily be. > > Votes, please, along with an indication of which lists you would > subscribe to, if there were two. > > -- > Paul > <http://paulgear.webhop.net> > -- > Did you know? Most email-borne viruses use a false sender address, so > you cannot track down the sender using that address. Instead, keep your > virus scanning software up-to-date and just delete any suspicious emails > you receive.A separate list IMHO will be better.
Paul Gear wrote:> ... > Votes, please, along with an indication of which lists you would > subscribe to, if there were two.All the votes were for a separate list, so it has been created: http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/shorewall-coding Subscribe away! :-) -- Paul <http://paulgear.webhop.net> -- Did you know? If you receive a virus warning from a friend and not through a virus software vendor, it''s likely to be a hoax. See <http://gear.dyndns.org:81/features/virus_hoaxes> for more info. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-devel/attachments/20050527/a1501431/signature.bin
Mike Noyes wrote:> ... > BTW, do you plan on accepting patches in the SF tracker? > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=22587My preference would be for patches to come to the shorewall-coding list, and other issues like feature requests and bugs to be handled in the tracker. What think others? -- Paul Gear, Manager IT Operations, Redlands College 38 Anson Road, Wellington Point 4160, Australia (Please send attachments in portable formats such as PDF, HTML, or OpenOffice.) -- The information contained in this message is copyright by Redlands College. Any use for direct sales or marketing purposes is expressly forbidden. This message does not represent the views of Redlands College. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-devel/attachments/20050527/141c292e/signature.bin
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 cvs commit list should be cvs commit list only without _any_ discussion or possibility to send there anything.> My preference would be for patches to come to the shorewall-coding > list, and other issues like feature requests and bugs to be handled in > the tracker. What think others?coding list should not be open. Nobody should be able to send mail into it. devel is for developement stuff, rfc patches etc. And using tracker is not bad idea at all. Btw. whoever maintains commits list, please switch to unified diff. context diff is really too hard to read. - -- Tuomo Soini <tis@foobar.fi> Linux and network services +358 40 5240030 Foobar Oy <http://foobar.fi/> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFClsONTlrZKzwul1ERAvNxAKCES9KEedqgDsQB42fI/HHuH/tB+QCghceD dAxDeXEP9KKyJJd0C3IO7zI=wmmy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
2005/5/27, Tuomo Soini <tis@foobar.fi>:> > Btw. whoever maintains commits list, please switch to unified diff. > context diff is really too hard to read. > > - --oh yeah ?? please switch to unified diff, I don''t like context diff too much :=)
Cristian Rodriguez wrote:> 2005/5/27, Tuomo Soini <tis@foobar.fi>: > > >>Btw. whoever maintains commits list, please switch to unified diff. >>context diff is really too hard to read. >> >>- -- > > > oh yeah ?? please switch to unified diff, I don''t like context diff > too much :=)I''ll see if the sourceforge syncmail script supports that tonight. -- Paul Gear, Manager IT Operations, Redlands College 38 Anson Road, Wellington Point 4160, Australia (Please send attachments in portable formats such as PDF, HTML, or OpenOffice.) -- The information contained in this message is copyright by Redlands College. Any use for direct sales or marketing purposes is expressly forbidden. This message does not represent the views of Redlands College. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-devel/attachments/20050527/212d6ecc/signature.bin
Tuomo Soini wrote:> cvs commit list should be cvs commit list only without _any_ discussion > or possibility to send there anything. > ... > coding list should not be open. Nobody should be able to send mail into > it. devel is for developement stuff, rfc patches etc.Could you elaborate more on why you think that we should have no discussion on the coding list? I don''t feel strongly about it, so if you''ve got further reasons i''d like to hear them.> And using tracker is not bad idea at all.I''ll have a go at putting jobs required into the SF.net tracker tonight, too. -- Paul Gear, Manager IT Operations, Redlands College 38 Anson Road, Wellington Point 4160, Australia (Please send attachments in portable formats such as PDF, HTML, or OpenOffice.) -- The information contained in this message is copyright by Redlands College. Any use for direct sales or marketing purposes is expressly forbidden. This message does not represent the views of Redlands College. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-devel/attachments/20050527/a4e8e9a2/signature.bin
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Paul Gear wrote:> Could you elaborate more on why you think that we should have no > discussion on the coding list? I don''t feel strongly about it, so if > you''ve got further reasons i''d like to hear them.No discussion on cvs commits mailing lists. Discussion will vanish between cvs messages. - -- Tuomo Soini <tis@foobar.fi> Linux and network services +358 40 5240030 Foobar Oy <http://foobar.fi/> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFCls/eTlrZKzwul1ERAsVDAJUfjmDpdTzT/la2lCxHE9SCCUdAAJ4gyE8g yRgKU+2h7WeAgJB3czAmVQ==yoif -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Tuomo Soini wrote:> Paul Gear wrote: > >>>Could you elaborate more on why you think that we should have no >>>discussion on the coding list? I don''t feel strongly about it, so if >>>you''ve got further reasons i''d like to hear them. > > > No discussion on cvs commits mailing lists. Discussion will vanish > between cvs messages.That''s what threaded mail clients are for... But point taken - let''s keep patches and discussion on the -devel list. -- Paul Gear, Manager IT Operations, Redlands College 38 Anson Road, Wellington Point 4160, Australia (Please send attachments in portable formats such as PDF, HTML, or OpenOffice.) -- The information contained in this message is copyright by Redlands College. Any use for direct sales or marketing purposes is expressly forbidden. This message does not represent the views of Redlands College. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.shorewall.net/pipermail/shorewall-devel/attachments/20050527/d2aba422/signature.bin