samba - Mar 2018 - broken mailing-list -> Re: Accentuated characters issue when receiving attributes from "samba user syncpasswords"

On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:32:33 +0200
Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 28.03.2018 um 17:21 schrieb Rowland Penny via samba:
> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:59:19 +0200
> > Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 28.03.2018 um 16:50 schrieb Lapin Blanc:
> >>> Thank you for the tip, i'll use it, but how come it's
correctly
> >>> encoded in the DN and not in the attribute ?
> >>> Is it related to the ldif format or something ?
> >>
> >> no idea and hence *do not* reply privately on mailing-lists
> >> i just recognize base64 when i see it
> >>
> >> proper mail clients respect
> >> List-Post: <mailto:samba at lists.samba.org>
> >>
> >> whoever configured that mailing list to add a wrong reply-to
header
> >> should be punsihed because my mails for sure contain one and
it's
> >> pervert to break a list like that
> >> Reply-To: Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>
> > 
> > It isn't the mailing list, it is probably the OP's mail client
> 
> it *is* the mailing list, the OP's mail client is not part of the game
> of my own posts received from the list and when you look *every*
> single mail from the samba ML and *noly* from the samba ML has this
> stupid "Reply-To" header
> 
> your message i reply to (luckily because thunderbird understand
> list-headers and ignores Reply-To with the "Reply-List"-button)
> From: Rowland Penny via samba <samba at lists.samba.org>
> Reply-To: Rowland Penny <rpenny at samba.org>
> Errors-To: samba-bounces at lists.samba.org
> Sender: samba <samba-bounces at lists.samba.org>

OK, I see what you mean, but 'Mailman' is set up to NOT remove
'Reply-To' headers, this is what 'Mailman' recommends, so I
don't see
it changing.

Rowland

>
> OK, I see what you mean, but 'Mailman' is set up to NOT remove
> 'Reply-To' headers, this is what 'Mailman' recommends, so I
don't see
> it changing.
>
> Rowland
While we are on this subject, is there a minimum number of days before you 
might be able to post to the list? I'm a new subscriber and I've been 
trying to send a post to the list for days.. (but then again my e-mail 
ends in .name)

Regards,

Vincent

Am 28.03.2018 um 18:07 schrieb Rowland Penny via samba:
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:32:33 +0200
> Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Am 28.03.2018 um 17:21 schrieb Rowland Penny via samba:
>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:59:19 +0200
>>> Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 28.03.2018 um 16:50 schrieb Lapin Blanc:
>>>>> Thank you for the tip, i'll use it, but how come
it's correctly
>>>>> encoded in the DN and not in the attribute ?
>>>>> Is it related to the ldif format or something ?
>>>>
>>>> no idea and hence *do not* reply privately on mailing-lists
>>>> i just recognize base64 when i see it
>>>>
>>>> proper mail clients respect
>>>> List-Post: <mailto:samba at lists.samba.org>
>>>>
>>>> whoever configured that mailing list to add a wrong reply-to
header
>>>> should be punsihed because my mails for sure contain one and
it's
>>>> pervert to break a list like that
>>>> Reply-To: Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>
>>>
>>> It isn't the mailing list, it is probably the OP's mail
client
>>
>> it *is* the mailing list, the OP's mail client is not part of the
game
>> of my own posts received from the list and when you look *every*
>> single mail from the samba ML and *noly* from the samba ML has this
>> stupid "Reply-To" header
>>
>> your message i reply to (luckily because thunderbird understand
>> list-headers and ignores Reply-To with the
"Reply-List"-button)
>> From: Rowland Penny via samba <samba at lists.samba.org>
>> Reply-To: Rowland Penny <rpenny at samba.org>
>> Errors-To: samba-bounces at lists.samba.org
>> Sender: samba <samba-bounces at lists.samba.org>
> 
> OK, I see what you mean, but 'Mailman' is set up to NOT remove
> 'Reply-To' headers, this is what 'Mailman' recommends, so I
don't see
> it changing
WTF - nobody asked for remove it - i ask for not invite it because it
*adds one* even when there was none - to every single message coming
from this list

don't stop prematurely read messages, i gave you an example where you
can see my sent-message from my local client as well as the reply-to
header in the middle of headers populated by the list server

just go into your local list-folder nad look: *every* single message of
this list has a reply-to header pointing to the posters address

and since this is only on *this* mlaing list while others which don't do
that also use mailman what is the point of your discussion?

Am 28.03.2018 um 18:22 schrieb Reindl Harald via samba:
> 
> 
> Am 28.03.2018 um 18:07 schrieb Rowland Penny via samba:
>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:32:33 +0200
>> Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 28.03.2018 um 17:21 schrieb Rowland Penny via samba:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:59:19 +0200
>>>> Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 28.03.2018 um 16:50 schrieb Lapin Blanc:
>>>>>> Thank you for the tip, i'll use it, but how come
it's correctly
>>>>>> encoded in the DN and not in the attribute ?
>>>>>> Is it related to the ldif format or something ?
>>>>>
>>>>> no idea and hence *do not* reply privately on mailing-lists
>>>>> i just recognize base64 when i see it
>>>>>
>>>>> proper mail clients respect
>>>>> List-Post: <mailto:samba at lists.samba.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> whoever configured that mailing list to add a wrong
reply-to header
>>>>> should be punsihed because my mails for sure contain one
and it's
>>>>> pervert to break a list like that
>>>>> Reply-To: Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>
>>>>
>>>> It isn't the mailing list, it is probably the OP's mail
client
>>>
>>> it *is* the mailing list, the OP's mail client is not part of
the game
>>> of my own posts received from the list and when you look *every*
>>> single mail from the samba ML and *noly* from the samba ML has this
>>> stupid "Reply-To" header
>>>
>>> your message i reply to (luckily because thunderbird understand
>>> list-headers and ignores Reply-To with the
"Reply-List"-button)
>>> From: Rowland Penny via samba <samba at lists.samba.org>
>>> Reply-To: Rowland Penny <rpenny at samba.org>
>>> Errors-To: samba-bounces at lists.samba.org
>>> Sender: samba <samba-bounces at lists.samba.org>
>>
>> OK, I see what you mean, but 'Mailman' is set up to NOT remove
>> 'Reply-To' headers, this is what 'Mailman' recommends,
so I don't see
>> it changing
> 
> WTF - nobody asked for remove it - i ask for not invite it because it
> *adds one* even when there was none - to every single message coming
> from this list
> 
> don't stop prematurely read messages, i gave you an example where you
> can see my sent-message from my local client as well as the reply-to
> header in the middle of headers populated by the list server
> 
> just go into your local list-folder nad look: *every* single message of
> this list has a reply-to header pointing to the posters address
> 
> and since this is only on *this* mlaing list while others which don't
do
> that also use mailman what is the point of your discussion?
*this message from the list*

From: Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org>
Reply-To: Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>
Errors-To: samba-bounces at lists.samba.org

"Reply-To: Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>" WAS NOT
part of the
outgoing message i sent - do you now gasp the problem?

On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 18:22:16 +0200
Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 28.03.2018 um 18:07 schrieb Rowland Penny via samba:
> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:32:33 +0200
> > Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 28.03.2018 um 17:21 schrieb Rowland Penny via samba:
> >>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:59:19 +0200
> >>> Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 28.03.2018 um 16:50 schrieb Lapin Blanc:
> >>>>> Thank you for the tip, i'll use it, but how come
it's correctly
> >>>>> encoded in the DN and not in the attribute ?
> >>>>> Is it related to the ldif format or something ?
> >>>>
> >>>> no idea and hence *do not* reply privately on
mailing-lists
> >>>> i just recognize base64 when i see it
> >>>>
> >>>> proper mail clients respect
> >>>> List-Post: <mailto:samba at lists.samba.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> whoever configured that mailing list to add a wrong
reply-to
> >>>> header should be punsihed because my mails for sure
contain one
> >>>> and it's pervert to break a list like that
> >>>> Reply-To: Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>
> >>>
> >>> It isn't the mailing list, it is probably the OP's
mail client
> >>
> >> it *is* the mailing list, the OP's mail client is not part of
the
> >> game of my own posts received from the list and when you look
> >> *every* single mail from the samba ML and *noly* from the samba ML
> >> has this stupid "Reply-To" header
> >>
> >> your message i reply to (luckily because thunderbird understand
> >> list-headers and ignores Reply-To with the
"Reply-List"-button)
> >> From: Rowland Penny via samba <samba at lists.samba.org>
> >> Reply-To: Rowland Penny <rpenny at samba.org>
> >> Errors-To: samba-bounces at lists.samba.org
> >> Sender: samba <samba-bounces at lists.samba.org>
> > 
> > OK, I see what you mean, but 'Mailman' is set up to NOT remove
> > 'Reply-To' headers, this is what 'Mailman' recommends,
so I don't
> > see it changing
> 
> WTF - nobody asked for remove it - i ask for not invite it because it
> *adds one* even when there was none - to every single message coming
> from this list
> 
> don't stop prematurely read messages, i gave you an example where you
> can see my sent-message from my local client as well as the reply-to
> header in the middle of headers populated by the list server
> 
> just go into your local list-folder nad look: *every* single message
> of this list has a reply-to header pointing to the posters address
> 
> and since this is only on *this* mlaing list while others which don't
> do that also use mailman what is the point of your discussion?
> 
When it comes to 'Reply-To', 'mailman' is set to
'Poster'

AND

From Mailman help:

This option controls what Mailman does to the Reply-To: header in
messages flowing through this mailing list. When set to Poster, no
Reply-To: header is added by Mailman, although if one is present in the
original message, it is not stripped. 

AND

In the full headers of the post you referred to, there is this:

Reply-To: Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>

Mailman isn't adding it and you say you are not adding it, so where is
it coming from ??

Rowland