On 01/04/16 19:05, Jason Voorhees wrote:> I've found an old thread in which you were participating: > > https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2015-February/189471.html > > It's more clear to me now but not at all. Since there seems to be > different code for nbt and nmbd which handle WINS replication and > browsing, which feature is what I need to setup in my MS network for > properly browse all the machines in the domain? > > I would ask again, should I setup a Samba host (member of the domain) > as a WINS server which is used by all the windows computers to achieve > what I need?Well, yes and no, just set up a domain member and if you want set it up as a WINS server, you can, but it probably won't be required. This is because your DC should be used via DNS to find your domain machines. Rowland> > Thanks again :) > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Jason Voorhees <jvoorhees1 at gmail.com > <mailto:jvoorhees1 at gmail.com>> wrote: > > Thanks for replying. I wasn't sure about what the link tried to > tell me but you just have confirmed it :) > > So, if I understood correctly, do I have to setup a WINS server in > another member machine (let's say another Samba host) and point > all my windows computers to such Samba as WINS server? >
If AD domains are based on DNS and WINS relies on NetBIOS, what protocol(s) are used by computers to create and see (browse) all the machines of the domain? While it's clear to me that a hostname will resolve to an IP address through DNS queries, I'm not sure how is the browsing list created and maintained. In old NT style domain, any computer of the domain could be selected to act as a master browser, and the use of WINS could just simplify this by having all the machines registered to the WINS server based on NetBIOS names. So now in a Samba4 AD domain, does it make sense the concept of master browser yet? Who maintains a browsing list? If any, how is this browsing list maintained? is it based on NetBIOS or DNS or both? I'm asking this because regardless of the fact that I have 2 Samba4 AD controllers without browsing features built-in, I am still being able to see certain machines in my network. So I guess "someone" is in keeping some kind of browsing list active. On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Rowland penny <rpenny at samba.org> wrote:> On 01/04/16 19:05, Jason Voorhees wrote: > >> I've found an old thread in which you were participating: >> >> https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2015-February/189471.html >> >> It's more clear to me now but not at all. Since there seems to be >> different code for nbt and nmbd which handle WINS replication and browsing, >> which feature is what I need to setup in my MS network for properly browse >> all the machines in the domain? >> >> I would ask again, should I setup a Samba host (member of the domain) as >> a WINS server which is used by all the windows computers to achieve what I >> need? >> > > Well, yes and no, just set up a domain member and if you want set it up as > a WINS server, you can, but it probably won't be required. This is because > your DC should be used via DNS to find your domain machines. > > Rowland > > >> Thanks again :) >> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Jason Voorhees <jvoorhees1 at gmail.com >> <mailto:jvoorhees1 at gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Thanks for replying. I wasn't sure about what the link tried to >> tell me but you just have confirmed it :) >> >> So, if I understood correctly, do I have to setup a WINS server in >> another member machine (let's say another Samba host) and point >> all my windows computers to such Samba as WINS server? >> >> > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba >
On 01/04/16 19:51, Jason Voorhees wrote:> If AD domains are based on DNS and WINS relies on NetBIOS, what > protocol(s) are used by computers to create and see (browse) all the > machines of the domain?As far as Samba is concerned it uses both, DNS & NetBIOS, but instead of using WINS, it uses DNS to find the machines and then 'nmbd' produces the browsing list (this is how I understand it works) I have two DCs and a domain member running as a server, I do not uses WINS (well not as a setting in smb.conf) but the other Linux machines (including the member server) show up if I browse the network, the two DCs do not. This is down to the 'nbt' portion of the 'samba' daemon not having the required code to browse the network. You should also be aware that you cannot run 'nmbd' on a DC, it will conflict with 'nbt' Rowland> > While it's clear to me that a hostname will resolve to an IP address > through DNS queries, I'm not sure how is the browsing list created and > maintained. In old NT style domain, any computer of the domain could > be selected to act as a master browser, and the use of WINS could just > simplify this by having all the machines registered to the WINS server > based on NetBIOS names. > > So now in a Samba4 AD domain, does it make sense the concept of master > browser yet? Who maintains a browsing list? If any, how is this > browsing list maintained? is it based on NetBIOS or DNS or both? I'm > asking this because regardless of the fact that I have 2 Samba4 AD > controllers without browsing features built-in, I am still being able > to see certain machines in my network. So I guess "someone" is in > keeping some kind of browsing list active. > > >