Hello there, I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its kernel can't run on this hardware. What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170727/65f67d80/attachment-0001.sig>
Le 27/07/2017 ? 19:25, wwp a ?crit :> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all.Usually, I install CentOS 7 with KDE on all desktop computers, mine and those of my clients. This is my "standard" desktop installation. https://blog.microlinux.fr/poste-de-travail-centos-7/ On more recent hardware, I usually try to run a kernel from ELRepo, either kernel-lt or kernel-ml. One the repo is configured: # yum --enablerepo=elrepo-kernel install kernel-{lt,ml} I everything else fails (which happened recently on some weird el cheapo laptop from a friend), I'll install KDE neon, which is a healthy mix of bleeding edge and stable. This is a "least evil" solution, but it actually works nicely. https://blog.microlinux.fr/neon-asus/ Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'?glise - 30730 Montpezat Web : http://www.microlinux.fr Mail : info at microlinux.fr T?l. : 04 66 63 10 32
Hello Nicolas, On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:51:07 +0200 Nicolas Kovacs <info at microlinux.fr> wrote:> Le 27/07/2017 ? 19:25, wwp a ?crit : > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > > it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > > more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > > willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. > > Usually, I install CentOS 7 with KDE on all desktop computers, mine and > those of my clients. This is my "standard" desktop installation. > > https://blog.microlinux.fr/poste-de-travail-centos-7/ > > On more recent hardware, I usually try to run a kernel from ELRepo, > either kernel-lt or kernel-ml. One the repo is configured: > > # yum --enablerepo=elrepo-kernel install kernel-{lt,ml}[snip] I would like to do that, but the live CD doesn't even boot, unknown hardware and that's the point. I thought I could find a respin of the DVD or Live CD w/ a recent kernel in. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170727/3cc3d15d/attachment-0001.sig>
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 07:25:25PM +0200, wwp wrote:> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware.What sense of the word "stable" are you looking for? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader
Hello Matthew, On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 14:27:47 -0400 Matthew Miller <mattdm at mattdm.org> wrote:> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 07:25:25PM +0200, wwp wrote: > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What sense of the word "stable" are you looking for?It's a good question. When I wrote that, I was wondering what do I mean saying "stable". Provided that it could be a top-recent kernel or a respin, I guess that the stable concept is potentially gone. Say, instead of stable, something not rawhide. But I'll examine all options that do work, so let's forget about "stable". Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170727/fa579875/attachment-0001.sig>
wwp wrote:> > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. >Hey, I just tried googling, and I cannot find a 9590, only 9550. You sure of that? Oh, and will it boot without UEFI from a flash drive? mark
Hello m.roth at 5-cent.us, On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:25:49 -0400 m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> wwp wrote: > > > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > > it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > > more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > > willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. > > > Hey, I just tried googling, and I cannot find a 9590, only 9550. You sure > of that?It's simply a typo: 9560. I've read of 9550 successful stories, but none of 9560 yet.> Oh, and will it boot without UEFI from a flash drive?It's UEFI, I get the boot menu, but it won't go further. Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170727/4a398d71/attachment-0001.sig>
I would go with Fedora or OpenSUSE latest if you want RH like on that hardware. There is nothing that unstable about them other than losing updates and maintenance after 2 years and having to upgrade. Another choice is to run Virtualbox on the Windows that shipped with the laptop and run a CentOS 7 virtual guest. If you REALLY need RHEL (CentOS) running on the hardware I would return the XPS and get a Lattitude or Precision laptop. They have much better Linux support as they tend to be more stability oriented rather than latest and greatest hardware. Mike On 07/27/2017 01:25 PM, wwp wrote:> Hello there, > > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. > > > Regards, > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170727/14bb7dd7/attachment-0001.sig>
And, if Ubuntu isn't pariah, even it's LTS has a reasonably current kernel. However, the "Debian way" (Debian, Ubuntu, others) is enough different than the "Red Hat way" (RHEL, CentOS, SuSE more or less) that, if it's important to you, stick with the RPM-based options. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <sysop at w1nr.net> To: "centos" <centos at centos.org> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 4:01:18 PM Subject: Re: [CentOS] What RH-like on a Dell XPS 15 (9590)? I would go with Fedora or OpenSUSE latest if you want RH like on that hardware. There is nothing that unstable about them other than losing updates and maintenance after 2 years and having to upgrade. Another choice is to run Virtualbox on the Windows that shipped with the laptop and run a CentOS 7 virtual guest. If you REALLY need RHEL (CentOS) running on the hardware I would return the XPS and get a Lattitude or Precision laptop. They have much better Linux support as they tend to be more stability oriented rather than latest and greatest hardware. Mike On 07/27/2017 01:25 PM, wwp wrote:> Hello there, > > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. > > > Regards, > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos_______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS at centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Am 27.07.2017 um 19:25 schrieb wwp <subscript at free.fr>:> > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all.as addition to the other comments I would suggest to report it on RH's bugzilla. So they get awareness ... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ -- LF
I have a Dell XPS 13 (9360) with Fedora 26 installed. Very happy with it. UEFI boot from flash drive works out of the box. For install I needed to change the drive settings in the BIOS from the default of RAID (what ever that means on a laptop) to AHCI. No need to turn off secure boot. If you want to use a DisplayLink USB display adaptor like the D3100 (commonly sold with this laptop), you might want to checkout https://github.com/displaylink-rpm. This will require either you to turn off secure boot or to sign the displaylink modules after they are installed. Signing is not that hard, but is a extra step that you have to look after. Cheers, Kal
On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote:> Hello there, > > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. > >I have an experimental 4.9.x kernel stream for x86_64. Let me see if I can create a live-dvd that boots with that kernel and installs. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/1db7d6cb/attachment-0001.sig>
On 07/28/2017 05:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:> On 07/27/2017 12:25 PM, wwp wrote: >> Hello there, >> >> >> I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable >> GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its >> kernel can't run on this hardware. >> >> What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless >> it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ >> more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not >> willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. >> >> > > I have an experimental 4.9.x kernel stream for x86_64. Let me see if I > can create a live-dvd that boots with that kernel and installs.4.9 kernel tree for CentOS-7 that is. It lives here: http://mirror.centos.org/altarch/7/experimental/x86_64/ (currently pushing a 4.9.39 kernel there) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/f66e1041/attachment-0001.sig>
Hello Mike, On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 17:01:18 -0400 "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <sysop at w1nr.net> wrote:> I would go with Fedora or OpenSUSE latest if you want RH like on that > hardware. There is nothing that unstable about them other than losing > updates and maintenance after 2 years and having to upgrade. > > Another choice is to run Virtualbox on the Windows that shipped with the > laptop and run a CentOS 7 virtual guest. > > If you REALLY need RHEL (CentOS) running on the hardware I would return > the XPS and get a Lattitude or Precision laptop. They have much better > Linux support as they tend to be more stability oriented rather than > latest and greatest hardware.As a try, I could install a Fedora 26 - installation and runtime went fine, apparently for everything (cpu, disk, video, wifi, bluetooth, sound..). Bad luck, once back to Windows (it's a dual boot), the UEFI config lost the F26 entry, I'm good to reinstall and find how to prevent Windows to override the UEFI config. Also digging other directions.. Regards,> On 07/27/2017 01:25 PM, wwp wrote: > > Hello there, > > > > > > I've just got a Dell XPS 15 (9590) at work and need to set up a stable > > GNU/Linux system on it. I thought of CentOS7, but.. obviously its > > kernel can't run on this hardware. > > > > What would you recommend? Waiting for CentOS8 is not an option unless > > it's a question of few weeks. Are there respins of the CentOS7 DVDs w/ > > more top-recent kernels? I'm know of Fedora 26 or course, and not > > willing to switch to Ubuntu 16.10 at all. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS at centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170728/48af60b0/attachment-0001.sig>