Kostya Serebryany via llvm-dev
2016-Feb-03 16:59 UTC
[llvm-dev] Intel MPX support (instrumentation pass similar to gcc's Pointer Checker)
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Dmitrii Kuvaiskii < Dmitrii.Kuvaiskii at tu-dresden.de> wrote:> I continue playing with Intel MPX and its support in modern compilers. > All experiments were done on the Alienware (Dell) 15 R2, Ubuntu 15.10 > (linux 4.2.0), gcc version is 5.2.1, icc version 2016.1.150. The > benchmark suite is PARSEC 3.0, all versions with 1 thread and default > configs. > > As I described previously, PointerChecker in gcc produces very > inefficient code. My experiments show overheads over native of up to > 9.5X (on "raytrace"), with common overheads of 3X ("bodytrack", > "fluidanimate", "streamcluster"). At the same time, AddressSanitizer > performs much better -- 1.3X on "raytrace", 1.7X on "bodytrack" and so > on. > > Recently I played with MPX support on Intel C/C++ Compiler (icc). This > implementation looks *much* better, with the following example > overheads: 1.2X on "raytrace", 1.25X on "bodytrack", 1.08X on > "streamcluster". So the common overheads are in the range of 15%-25%! >That's interesting. Are you sure you are instrumenting both reads and writes with icc?> is not > Please note that gcc-mpx and gcc-asan versions were compared against > gcc-native, and icc-mpx version was compared against icc-native. > > We would like to compile a small technical report with all our > measurements (performance and memory overhead) and put it online. > We'll do it in the near future, I will write an update here when it's > done. Please tell me if anyone is interested in any specific > benchmarks (I want to test PARSEC and some case-studies: PostgreSQL, > Memcached, SQLite3). Any feedback is welcome. >SPEC2006 is well know so it could be useful. Especially 483.xalancbmk Besides, maybe you could take something that is not strictly a benchmark. E.g. take pdfium_test (https://pdfium.googlesource.com/pdfium/) and feed several large pdf files to it.> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Kostya Serebryany <kcc at google.com> wrote: > > I've recently played with the GCC implementation of pointer checker on a > > real hardware, > > my recent impressions are here: > > > https://github.com/google/sanitizers/wiki/AddressSanitizerIntelMemoryProtectionExtensions > > (there is also some old pre-hardware content). > > > > In short, I totally agree with what David says above: MPX is a disaster. > > (Usual disclaimer: my opinion here is too biased) > > > > I am glad that LLVM already has the support for MPX instructions, but I > see > > no good reason to add the MPX-based checker to LLVM. > > Yes, it will allow us to detect intra-object overflows, something that > asan > > can not do by default, but it's not worth the extreme complexity of the > > MPX-based checker. > > > > --kcc > > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:14 AM, David Chisnall via llvm-dev > > <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > >> > >> On 28 Jan 2016, at 17:03, Dmitrii Kuvaiskii via llvm-dev > >> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > Interestingly, my > >> > preliminary experiments indicate that adding MPX bounds checking via > >> > Pointer Checker in gcc is usually slower than using software-only > >> > AddressSanitizer. > >> > >> This corresponds with other results that I have seen. The last time I > >> looked at the output from gcc, it also did not generate pointer updates > that > >> were safe in the presence of concurrency (they must be bracketed in > >> transactions if you want the MPX metadata and the pointer updates to be > >> atomic) and the overhead of this is likely to be even more. > >> > >> I am particularly impressed with Intel for creating a hardware > >> implementation that is both slower than a software-only version and can > not > >> (due to its fail-open policy being embedded in the hardware) be used for > >> security. > >> > >> David > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> LLVM Developers mailing list > >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > >> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev > > > > > > > > -- > Yours sincerely, > Dmitrii Kuvaiskii >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20160203/e3949266/attachment.html>
Dmitrii Kuvaiskii via llvm-dev
2016-Feb-04 12:59 UTC
[llvm-dev] Intel MPX support (instrumentation pass similar to gcc's Pointer Checker)
>> Recently I played with MPX support on Intel C/C++ Compiler (icc). This >> implementation looks *much* better, with the following example >> overheads: 1.2X on "raytrace", 1.25X on "bodytrack", 1.08X on >> "streamcluster". So the common overheads are in the range of 15%-25%! > That's interesting. > Are you sure you are instrumenting both reads and writes with icc?Yes, here are the exact flags I add to the usual build configuration: -xHOST -check-pointers-mpx:rw Note "rw" which stands for protecting read and write accesses. In the future, I will analyze how different flags affect ASan / SoftBoundCETS / gcc-mpx / icc-mpx. I will also use a set of microbenchmarks/benchmarks (e.g., RIPE) to test the protection provided.> SPEC2006 is well know so it could be useful. Especially 483.xalancbmk > Besides, maybe you could take something that is not strictly a benchmark. > E.g. take pdfium_test (https://pdfium.googlesource.com/pdfium/) and feed > several large pdf files to it.Thanks, I will report the SPEC2006 numbers as well. -- Yours sincerely, Dmitrii Kuvaiskii
Kostya Serebryany via llvm-dev
2016-Feb-04 18:40 UTC
[llvm-dev] Intel MPX support (instrumentation pass similar to gcc's Pointer Checker)
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 4:59 AM, Dmitrii Kuvaiskii < Dmitrii.Kuvaiskii at tu-dresden.de> wrote:> >> Recently I played with MPX support on Intel C/C++ Compiler (icc). This > >> implementation looks *much* better, with the following example > >> overheads: 1.2X on "raytrace", 1.25X on "bodytrack", 1.08X on > >> "streamcluster". So the common overheads are in the range of 15%-25%! > > That's interesting. > > Are you sure you are instrumenting both reads and writes with icc? > > Yes, here are the exact flags I add to the usual build configuration: > -xHOST -check-pointers-mpx:rw >Interesting, looking forward to reading your report!> > Note "rw" which stands for protecting read and write accesses. In the > future, I will analyze how different flags affect ASan / SoftBoundCETS > / gcc-mpx / icc-mpx. > I will also use a set of microbenchmarks/benchmarks (e.g., RIPE) to > test the protection provided. > > > SPEC2006 is well know so it could be useful. Especially 483.xalancbmk > > Besides, maybe you could take something that is not strictly a benchmark. > > E.g. take pdfium_test (https://pdfium.googlesource.com/pdfium/) and feed > > several large pdf files to it. > > Thanks, I will report the SPEC2006 numbers as well. > >Note that SPEC2006 has several know bugs that trigger under asan. https://github.com/google/sanitizers/wiki/AddressSanitizerRunningSpecBenchmarks has a patch that makes SPEC2006 pass with asan. Some of these bugs and maybe others may also trigger with an MPX checker. --kcc --> Yours sincerely, > Dmitrii Kuvaiskii >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20160204/f8ce156c/attachment.html>
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