llvm dev - Jun 2011 - [LLVMdev] ARM thumb-2 instruction used for non-thumb2 CPUs

On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Renato Golin wrote:
> On 22 June 2011 14:33, Damjan Marion <damjan.marion at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Problem is that in case when old binutils are used (in my case freebsd
is using old one due to license upgrade to GPLv3) AS doesn't understand new
mnemonics and fails.
> 
> Indeed, this is new in ARM ARM v7.
> 
> 
>> Can we change to old mnemonic at least when ARMv4 and ARMv5 code is
generated?
> 
> We definitely should. Feel free to send a patch if you already have,
> or create a bug in bugzilla. Shouldn't be too hard to add it.
LLVM always uses unified syntax, including updated mnemonics for older
instructions. Older binutils aren't supported. This is unlikely to change.

-Jim

On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Jim Grosbach wrote:
> 
> On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Renato Golin wrote:
> 
>> On 22 June 2011 14:33, Damjan Marion <damjan.marion at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> Problem is that in case when old binutils are used (in my case
freebsd is using old one due to license upgrade to GPLv3) AS doesn't
understand new mnemonics and fails.
>> 
>> Indeed, this is new in ARM ARM v7.
>> 
>> 
>>> Can we change to old mnemonic at least when ARMv4 and ARMv5 code is
generated?
>> 
>> We definitely should. Feel free to send a patch if you already have,
>> or create a bug in bugzilla. Shouldn't be too hard to add it.
> 
> LLVM always uses unified syntax, including updated mnemonics for older
instructions. Older binutils aren't supported. This is unlikely to change.
> 
This sounds like a dead end as newer binutils are GPLv3.

What is the status of integrated-as for arm, is it stable?

On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Damjan Marion wrote:
> 
> On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Jim Grosbach wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Renato Golin wrote:
>> 
>>> On 22 June 2011 14:33, Damjan Marion <damjan.marion at
gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Problem is that in case when old binutils are used (in my case
freebsd is using old one due to license upgrade to GPLv3) AS doesn't
understand new mnemonics and fails.
>>> 
>>> Indeed, this is new in ARM ARM v7.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Can we change to old mnemonic at least when ARMv4 and ARMv5
code is generated?
>>> 
>>> We definitely should. Feel free to send a patch if you already
have,
>>> or create a bug in bugzilla. Shouldn't be too hard to add it.
>> 
>> LLVM always uses unified syntax, including updated mnemonics for older
instructions. Older binutils aren't supported. This is unlikely to change.
>> 
> 
> This sounds like a dead end as newer binutils are GPLv3.
Yeah, that's definitely a very real concern and a big motivation to get the
MC based asm parser whipped into usable shape. We're much more in control of
our own destiny then.
> What is the status of integrated-as for arm, is it stable?

The encoding information in the back end is generally in pretty decent shape for
direct object file emission. Some of the folks working on the ELF emitter would
be better able to tell you how that part of the things is working. The asm
parser, on the other hand, is still in pretty rough shape.

That said, I'm hoping to get back to that stuff near future, so it's
still under active development.

-Jim

Hi Damjan,
> This sounds like a dead end as newer binutils are GPLv3.
Unfortunately, you have to live with this. Until recently binutils
were quite buggy wrt thumb2 code, so, most probably you will need new
binutils in any case.

-- 
With best regards, Anton Korobeynikov
Faculty of Mathematics and Mechanics, Saint Petersburg State University