Hi there, i''m a new RoR developer and i need your feedback about this book : http://pragprog.com/book/rails4/agile-web-development-with-rails-4 Is it good for learning Rails ? I mean, i already read Michael Hartl tutorial. Is it useful to me to buy this book ? Are there other good books about Rails 4 ? thx guys ! p.s: sorry for my english, i''m french x) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rubyonrails-talk/2598522b-64ef-4029-94e2-622a37caf10c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Anything from that publisher is bound to be good :) --rob Sent from my cell...excuse typos On Oct 23, 2013 2:14 AM, "Julien Itard" <julienitard-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi there, > i''m a new RoR developer and i need your feedback about this book : > http://pragprog.com/book/**rails4/**agile-web-development-with-rail**s-4<http://pragprog.com/book/rails4/agile-web-development-with-rails-4> > > Is it good for learning Rails ? I mean, i already read Michael Hartl > tutorial. Is it useful to me to buy this book ? Are there other good books > about Rails 4 ? > > thx guys ! > > p.s: sorry for my english, i''m french x) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rubyonrails-talk/2598522b-64ef-4029-94e2-622a37caf10c%40googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rubyonrails-talk/CAPncwvJx7sB8s-p%3D_FzLryAOO%3D4fa4PDA2F%3DbPn4hAX7KRy6wQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Julien Itard <julienitard-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi there, > i''m a new RoR developer and i need your feedback about this book :http://pragprog.com/book/rails4/agile-web-development-with-rails-4 > > Is it good for learning Rails ? I mean, i already read Michael Hartl tutorial. Is it useful to me to buy this book ? Are there other good books about Rails 4 ? > > thx guys ! > > p.s: sorry for my english, i''m french x)Salût et bienvenu! I would say it''s a good book — my experience is with the first edition (Rails 1!! OMG) but DHH does present some good ideas. It''s contender isn''t finished yet, but is available as a review edition: Rails 4 In Action from Manning Pub (Ryan Bigg, Yehuda Katz, Steve Klabnick — all real masters with opinions that differ a bit from DHH''s). The previous, Rails 3 In Action, is really excellent, and the new edition is quite good (still needs some edits, though). However, If you''ve gone through Hartl''s tutorial and still wanting more, both of the above cover a lot of the same ground, but from different points of view. That''s not a bad thing, but might not be what you want. My next course of action would be to start developing some simple Rails applications, then study the Rails''s guides at http://guides.rubyonrails.org (and look at http://edgeguides.rubyonrails.org as well — they represent the latest edits) and to start looking at the API docs, rather than delve into another book, but that''s the way I approach things. Another thing is that learning Rails, one should have a good grasp of how Ruby works. If that''s not the case (I can''t tell, just a possibility), I''d suggest Ruby for Rails — which focuses on the Ruby aspects that are necessary to understand how Rails works. It''s a bit dated, but still good. And of course, the updated Pickaxe book: Ruby Programming, 19 and 2.0 edition from pragprog. Bonne chance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rubyonrails-talk/8C7E72CC-7B6A-4EBD-BF84-AB142E7207B4%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Thx ! I''ll check it Le mercredi 23 octobre 2013 18:50:09 UTC+2, tamouse a écrit :> > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Julien Itard <julie...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<javascript:>> > wrote: > > > Hi there, > > i''m a new RoR developer and i need your feedback about this book : > http://pragprog.com/book/rails4/agile-web-development-with-rails-4 > > > > Is it good for learning Rails ? I mean, i already read Michael Hartl > tutorial. Is it useful to me to buy this book ? Are there other good books > about Rails 4 ? > > > > thx guys ! > > > > p.s: sorry for my english, i''m french x) > > Salût et bienvenu! > > I would say it''s a good book — my experience is with the first edition > (Rails 1!! OMG) but DHH does present some good ideas. It''s contender isn''t > finished yet, but is available as a review edition: Rails 4 In Action from > Manning Pub (Ryan Bigg, Yehuda Katz, Steve Klabnick — all real masters with > opinions that differ a bit from DHH''s). The previous, Rails 3 In Action, is > really excellent, and the new edition is quite good (still needs some > edits, though). > > However, If you''ve gone through Hartl''s tutorial and still wanting more, > both of the above cover a lot of the same ground, but from different points > of view. That''s not a bad thing, but might not be what you want. > > My next course of action would be to start developing some simple Rails > applications, then study the Rails''s guides at > http://guides.rubyonrails.org (and look at > http://edgeguides.rubyonrails.org as well — they represent the latest > edits) and to start looking at the API docs, rather than delve into another > book, but that''s the way I approach things. > > Another thing is that learning Rails, one should have a good grasp of how > Ruby works. If that''s not the case (I can''t tell, just a possibility), I''d > suggest Ruby for Rails — which focuses on the Ruby aspects that are > necessary to understand how Rails works. It''s a bit dated, but still good. > And of course, the updated Pickaxe book: Ruby Programming, 19 and 2.0 > edition from pragprog. > > Bonne chance!-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rubyonrails-talk/77ccf371-7959-42ec-a443-d78e47be9e67%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.