class Proc def apply(enum) enum.map &self end alias | apply def reduce(enum) enum.inject &self end alias <= reduce def compose(f) if self.respond_to?(:arity) && self.arity == 1 lambda {|*args| self[f[*args]] } else lambda {|*args| self[*f[*args]] } end end alias * compose end sum = lambda {|x,y| x+y } # A function to add two numbers mean = (sum<=a)/a.size # Or sum.reduce(a) or a.inject(&sum) deviation = lambda {|x| x-mean } # Function to compute difference from mean square = lambda {|x| x*x } # Function to square a number standardDeviation = Math.sqrt((sum<=square*deviation|a)/(a.size-1)) Ok so now I have another example from this book which does not contain parentheses around deviation|a. So then why is this part: (sum<=square*deviation|a) not evaluated from left to right. Apparently, it evaluates this part: deviation|a first and this part second: square*deviation|a and then finally: sum< So it looks like it is evaluating from right to left. Even though it should be evaluating from left to right... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
In this method call: meth1(meth2(meth3)) ...which value has has to be computed first so that meth1 can return? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
meth3 -> (meth2) -> (meth1) The logic is that meth3 has to return so that meth2 can accept, process and return so that meth1 can accept, process and return. Don''t read nested methods like you read a book, with nested methods the last to be nested is the first to be executed. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:14 AM, 7stud -- <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> In this method call: > > meth1(meth2(meth3)) > > ...which value has has to be computed first so that meth1 can return? > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
If you think about it there is only one possible answer to that question. How could it evaluate meth2(meth3) without evaluating meth3 first, in order to pass the result to meth2? Similarly how could it call meth1 before it evaluated the parameter to pass to it? Colin On 23 December 2012 08:14, 7stud -- <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> In this method call: > > meth1(meth2(meth3)) > > ...which value has has to be computed first so that meth1 can return? > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
ok, it didn''t look like nested methods. But I made to believe that this: sum<=square*deviation|a is exactly the same as this: sum<=(square*(deviation|(a))) So if this is true, then still a question remains. Here''s the original context again: module Functional def compose(f) if self.respond_to?(:arity) && self.arity == 1 lambda { |*args| self[f[*args]] } else lambda {|*args| self[*f[*args]] } end end alias * compose def apply(enum) enum.map &self end alias | apply def reduce(enum) enum.inject &self end alias <= reduce end class Proc include Functional end #client code a = [1,2,3] sum = lambda { |x,y| x+y } mean = (sum<=a)/a.size deviation = lambda { |x| x-mean } square = lambda { |x| x*x } standardDeviation = Math.sqrt((sum<=square*deviation|a)/(a.size-1)) On the last line, this executes first: deviation|a this returns a new array of how far each of elements are from the mean. Then this array gets passed to * which is invoked on square (a lambda object): square*returned_array That calls compose where f parameter is the returned array from above. So then this line is returned by compose since the array object doesnt respond to arity: lambda {|*args| self[*f[*args]] } So it appears the return value of compose is the lambda object. That presents a problem because <= expects an enum argument. sum<=this_should_be_an_enum On Dec 23, 3:14 am, 7stud -- <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> In this method call: > > meth1(meth2(meth3)) > > ...which value has has to be computed first so that meth1 can return? > > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
On Tuesday, 25 December 2012 20:13:16 UTC-5, John Merlino wrote:> > ok, it didn''t look like nested methods. But I made to believe that > this: > > sum<=square*deviation|a > > is exactly the same as this: > > sum<=(square*(deviation|(a))) > > So if this is true, then still a question remains. >That''s not how it parses, thanks to operator precedence - the same reason that 2+5*10+3 parses as 2.+((5.*(10)).+(3)) and not 2.+(5.*(10.+(3))). You can use a tool like Ripper (http://www.rubyinside.com/using-ripper-to-see-how-ruby-is-parsing-your-code-5270.html) to see exactly how something is being parsed. Trying your expression yields: [:program, [[:binary, [:vcall, [:@ident, "sum", [1, 0]]], :<=, [:binary, [:binary, [:vcall, [:@ident, "square", [1, 5]]], :*, [:vcall, [:@ident, "deviation", [1, 12]]]], :|, [:vcall, [:@ident, "a", [1, 22]]]]]]] Or, distilled back to a fully-parenthized code version: sum <= ((square*deviation) | a) With the method calls written out explicitly: sum.<=((square.*(deviation)).|(a)) Essentially, this creates a function that calculates the squared deviation from the mean (square*deviation), applies it to the list a, and then sums the resulting values. This sort of confusion is why most people recommend avoiding operator overloading in most cases - there are a bunch of precedence rules built into the language, and you''re essentially stuck with them. --Matt Jones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/i8Zt0_c0fRsJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
That was my hunch. Thanks for clarifying. On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:48:18 PM UTC-5, Matt Jones wrote:> > > > On Tuesday, 25 December 2012 20:13:16 UTC-5, John Merlino wrote: >> >> ok, it didn''t look like nested methods. But I made to believe that >> this: >> >> sum<=square*deviation|a >> >> is exactly the same as this: >> >> sum<=(square*(deviation|(a))) >> >> So if this is true, then still a question remains. >> > > That''s not how it parses, thanks to operator precedence - the same reason > that 2+5*10+3 parses as 2.+((5.*(10)).+(3)) and not 2.+(5.*(10.+(3))). > > You can use a tool like Ripper ( > http://www.rubyinside.com/using-ripper-to-see-how-ruby-is-parsing-your-code-5270.html) > to see exactly how something is being parsed. Trying your expression yields: > > [:program, > [[:binary, > [:vcall, [:@ident, "sum", [1, 0]]], > :<=, > [:binary, > [:binary, > [:vcall, [:@ident, "square", [1, 5]]], > :*, > [:vcall, [:@ident, "deviation", [1, 12]]]], > :|, > [:vcall, [:@ident, "a", [1, 22]]]]]]] > > Or, distilled back to a fully-parenthized code version: > > sum <= ((square*deviation) | a) > > With the method calls written out explicitly: > > sum.<=((square.*(deviation)).|(a)) > > Essentially, this creates a function that calculates the squared deviation > from the mean (square*deviation), applies it to the list a, and then sums > the resulting values. > > This sort of confusion is why most people recommend avoiding operator > overloading in most cases - there are a bunch of precedence rules built > into the language, and you''re essentially stuck with them. > > --Matt Jones >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-talk/-/Td1UvO4YivgJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.