All - Let me preface this with saying that I''m very much new to Ruby on Rails. At the time of this post, available versions are: - Ruby 1.9.2 - Gems 1.6.2 - Rails 3.0.5 I''m trying to set up several working environments in order of priority: 1) Testing/Learning environment on my system (Windows 7, 64-bit) 2) Shared environment so that I can learn with a developer friend of mine. 3) Hosting/Deployment environment. Re: #1 - I have everything installed and have tried several IDEs with hardly any success (RadRails 2, NetBeans 6.9.1, and RubyMine 3) - yet haven''t been able to set up a fully working/stable environment. Could be convinced not to use an IDE too, but still need to be able to test on localhost. Re: #2 - Tried to combine 2 & 3 by using AWS. Got it going kinda, but honestly don''t know what I''m doing. Maybe Slicehost or Linode would be better. Want to avoid EngineYard and some of the "expensive" options because I can''t afford it and don''t want to pay that much to learn Rails. Remember that #2 is my priority, so it doesn''t exactly have to be the "final destination" for my application. SO... Can folks weigh in on tried & true methods for getting up and running. I''m a bit frustrated, and thought I''d turn to the experts for advice. This help could come in any form you''re able to give - step by steps, links, replies, pointers, articles, etc... Any/all help is greatly appreciated! THANK YOU! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Jason Clark <jclark.jasondclark-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>wrote:> All - > > Let me preface this with saying that I''m very much new to Ruby on > Rails. > > At the time of this post, available versions are: > > - Ruby 1.9.2 > - Gems 1.6.2 > - Rails 3.0.5 > > I''m trying to set up several working environments in order of > priority: > > 1) Testing/Learning environment on my system (Windows 7, 64-bit) > 2) Shared environment so that I can learn with a developer friend of > mine. > 3) Hosting/Deployment environment. > > Re: #1 - I have everything installed and have tried several IDEs with > hardly any success (RadRails 2, NetBeans 6.9.1, and RubyMine 3) - yet > haven''t been able to set up a fully working/stable environment. Could > be convinced not to use an IDE too, but still need to be able to test > on localhost. > > Re: #2 - Tried to combine 2 & 3 by using AWS. Got it going kinda, but > honestly don''t know what I''m doing. Maybe Slicehost or Linode would > be better. Want to avoid EngineYard and some of the "expensive" > options because I can''t afford it and don''t want to pay that much to > learn Rails. Remember that #2 is my priority, so it doesn''t exactly > have to be the "final destination" for my application. > > SO... > > Can folks weigh in on tried & true methods for getting up and > running. I''m a bit frustrated, and thought I''d turn to the experts > for advice. This help could come in any form you''re able to give - > step by steps, links, replies, pointers, articles, etc... >What I would do is: 1) Set up an Ubuntu linux vm on your windows. You are going to have a lot better time dealing with Ubuntu than with Windows and have more support. 2) For deployment use Heroku if you are starting out. Does not get easier than than IMO. To use Heroku you will use git and that way you and anyone else you like can share the repository.> > Any/all help is greatly appreciated! THANK YOU! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Jason Clark <jclark.jasondclark-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>wrote:> All - > I''m trying to set up several working environments in order of > priority: > > 1) Testing/Learning environment on my system (Windows 7, 64-bit) >Start by setting up rvm so if you need multiple versions of rails, gems and ruby (you will) it''ll give you the ability to handle that. 2) Shared environment so that I can learn with a developer friend of> mine. > 3) Hosting/Deployment environment. >I''d use Heroku> Re: #1 - I have everything installed and have tried several IDEs with > hardly any success (RadRails 2, NetBeans 6.9.1, and RubyMine 3) - yet > haven''t been able to set up a fully working/stable environment. Could > be convinced not to use an IDE too, but still need to be able to test > on localhost. >Skip IDE''s. All you need to do is run "rails server" to test on localhost. Command line and a decent text editor are the easiest way to start and for most projects a good way to continue. Re: #2 - Tried to combine 2 & 3 by using AWS. Got it going kinda, but> honestly don''t know what I''m doing. Maybe Slicehost or Linode would > be better. Want to avoid EngineYard and some of the "expensive" > options because I can''t afford it and don''t want to pay that much to > learn Rails. Remember that #2 is my priority, so it doesn''t exactly > have to be the "final destination" for my application. >Use heroku to kick things off. It''s the simplest possible starting point and no cost until you push to production (and many people have simple sites in production on the free version) Best Wishes, Peter> > SO... > > Can folks weigh in on tried & true methods for getting up and > running. I''m a bit frustrated, and thought I''d turn to the experts > for advice. This help could come in any form you''re able to give - > step by steps, links, replies, pointers, articles, etc... > > Any/all help is greatly appreciated! THANK YOU! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
I''ll second that you''re likely to find more help on a non-Windows system just because there are more people here with experience on Mac and Linux. I also second getting RVM for managing Ruby. And before you get to an IDE, I would use the command line to make sure you''ve got your environment correct. However, I''d say that once you''ve gotten your first Rails app running on localhost, then RubyMine is going to be a great help and save you lots of time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Walter Lee Davis
2011-Mar-16 20:37 UTC
Re: Getting Started - Various Working Environments?
I''ve heard very good things about Instant Rails on Windows. I believe it sets up a Linux VM and installs all the tools. This makes it trivial to have a working environment that''s closer to what you''ll really be hosting on, so it removes some layers of abstraction and translation. Walter On Mar 16, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jason Clark wrote:> All - > > Let me preface this with saying that I''m very much new to Ruby on > Rails. > > At the time of this post, available versions are: > > - Ruby 1.9.2 > - Gems 1.6.2 > - Rails 3.0.5 > > I''m trying to set up several working environments in order of > priority: > > 1) Testing/Learning environment on my system (Windows 7, 64-bit) > 2) Shared environment so that I can learn with a developer friend of > mine. > 3) Hosting/Deployment environment. > > Re: #1 - I have everything installed and have tried several IDEs with > hardly any success (RadRails 2, NetBeans 6.9.1, and RubyMine 3) - yet > haven''t been able to set up a fully working/stable environment. Could > be convinced not to use an IDE too, but still need to be able to test > on localhost. > > Re: #2 - Tried to combine 2 & 3 by using AWS. Got it going kinda, but > honestly don''t know what I''m doing. Maybe Slicehost or Linode would > be better. Want to avoid EngineYard and some of the "expensive" > options because I can''t afford it and don''t want to pay that much to > learn Rails. Remember that #2 is my priority, so it doesn''t exactly > have to be the "final destination" for my application. > > SO... > > Can folks weigh in on tried & true methods for getting up and > running. I''m a bit frustrated, and thought I''d turn to the experts > for advice. This help could come in any form you''re able to give - > step by steps, links, replies, pointers, articles, etc... > > Any/all help is greatly appreciated! THANK YOU! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > . >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Jason Clark <jclark.jasondclark-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>wrote:> All - > > Let me preface this with saying that I''m very much new to Ruby on > Rails. > > At the time of this post, available versions are: > > - Ruby 1.9.2 > - Gems 1.6.2 > - Rails 3.0.5 > > I''m trying to set up several working environments in order of > priority: > > 1) Testing/Learning environment on my system (Windows 7, 64-bit) > 2) Shared environment so that I can learn with a developer friend of > mine. > 3) Hosting/Deployment environment. > > Re: #1 - I have everything installed and have tried several IDEs with > hardly any success (RadRails 2, NetBeans 6.9.1, and RubyMine 3) - yet > haven''t been able to set up a fully working/stable environment. Could > be convinced not to use an IDE too, but still need to be able to test > on localhost. > > Re: #2 - Tried to combine 2 & 3 by using AWS. Got it going kinda, but > honestly don''t know what I''m doing. Maybe Slicehost or Linode would > be better. Want to avoid EngineYard and some of the "expensive" > options because I can''t afford it and don''t want to pay that much to > learn Rails. Remember that #2 is my priority, so it doesn''t exactly > have to be the "final destination" for my application. > > SO... > > Can folks weigh in on tried & true methods for getting up and > running. I''m a bit frustrated, and thought I''d turn to the experts > for advice. This help could come in any form you''re able to give - > step by steps, links, replies, pointers, articles, etc... > > Any/all help is greatly appreciated! THANK YOU! > >You are coming from other languages and you are trying to carry over all of your habits to rails, thats why you are so confused, first of all rails does not needs an ide, second your app will come with everything you need to develop once you run rails new command and create it, it will have testing, and a webserver indise for development. Everything can be managed via de console and you dont need and ide. Rails is free, open source and easy, so it changes a lot that is why you will get confused easily if you find that soem tutorials dont work. Also you will find most of the support comes from the open source community so using an open source OS to program will be so much easier for you as a begginer. If you want to include project collaboration read about git and learn to use it. Since rails is based on ruby and is easy to create new libraries for it you will need a gem(libraries) dependency manager, that is bundler will do for you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 03/16/2011 01:37 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:> I''ve heard very good things about Instant Rails on Windows. I believe > it sets up a Linux VM and installs all the tools. This makes it > trivial to have a working environment that''s closer to what you''ll > really be hosting on, so it removes some layers of abstraction and > translation. > > WalterNot much maintenance has been done on Instant Rails for a while. The latest version uses rails 2.0 or 2.1 though you can install a later rails version on it. It consists of a directory hierarchy that contains the tools you will need to create and run a rails app on windows. It is not a Linux VM it is just a packaged rails system with a few bells and whistles and it runs good within the limits of windows. I use it all of the time for deploying on windows but I prefer to develop on Linux. You can use virtualbox and set up a Linux VM on windows and have a good development environment or do what I do and set up your system to dual boot Linux and Windows and maybe after a while you will forget windows is there. Norm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Walter Lee Davis
2011-Mar-18 12:44 UTC
Re: Getting Started - Various Working Environments?
On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Norm Scherer wrote:> On 03/16/2011 01:37 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote: >> I''ve heard very good things about Instant Rails on Windows. I >> believe it sets up a Linux VM and installs all the tools. This >> makes it trivial to have a working environment that''s closer to >> what you''ll really be hosting on, so it removes some layers of >> abstraction and translation. >> >> Walter > Not much maintenance has been done on Instant Rails for a while. > The latest version uses rails 2.0 or 2.1 though you can install a > later rails version on it. It consists of a directory hierarchy > that contains the tools you will need to create and run a rails app > on windows. It is not a Linux VM it is just a packaged rails system > with a few bells and whistles and it runs good within the limits of > windows. I use it all of the time for deploying on windows but I > prefer to develop on Linux. You can use virtualbox and set up a > Linux VM on windows and have a good development environment or do > what I do and set up your system to dual boot Linux and Windows and > maybe after a while you will forget windows is there. > > NormI am sorry, I misremembered the name. I was thinking of another kit. I''m googling but all i can find are references to RailsInstaller, and I think that just installs everything within Windows. Can anyone recall the name of the one that puts everything in a Linux VM? Walter> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > . >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 18 March 2011 12:44, Walter Lee Davis <waltd-HQgmohHLjDZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Can anyone recall the name of > the one that puts everything in a Linux VM?VirtualRails It''s also worth looking at the Bitnami Rubystack -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Walter Lee Davis
2011-Mar-18 12:57 UTC
Re: Getting Started - Various Working Environments?
On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Michael Pavling wrote:>> Can anyone recall the name of >> the one that puts everything in a Linux VM? > > VirtualRailsThat was it, thanks. I knew I saw it blip by on RubyFlow. Walter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.