Hello there,
Having made quite a lot of expensive mistakes i have finally clobbered
together a script for the users on my network.
Have a look at it and please suggest as to how can i limit bandwidth to
each ip on this network to about 64Kbits.
Trevor
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Stef....;) Hats off to you. I am zapped as to how did you figure out the "isolated" class wasn''t working???. Anyway Stef, i am glad that you have detected something without my telling you. Have changed the same and have restarted the server. Lets see. Its night time here in Bombay, hence am playing around with the production machine. Stef, I need to traffic shape for my 1000 odd users on the network. Is there a way to do it by having static qdisc''s /classes/filters inserted. Also, can i do them on the fly by having them login cia a SUID ROOT ph page and then get web access and thus adding/deleting these qdisc''s /classes/filters on the fly???. Trevor On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 23:26, Stef Coene wrote:> On Sunday 15 June 2003 01:46, Trevor Warren wrote: > > Hello there, > > > > Having made quite a lot of expensive mistakes i have finally clobbered > > together a script for the users on my network. > > > > Have a look at it and please suggest as to how can i limit bandwidth to > > each ip on this network to about 64Kbits. > You specify bandwidth 1mbit. But that should be your real nic bandwidth. So > 10mbit or 100mbit. If you want to share the same 1Mbit between some classes, > you have to add 1 bounded class with rate = 1mbit to the root qdisc and add > the other classes to that class. > Remove the isolated class, it''s not working and can even distubr your setup. > > Stef-- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/
Hello Stef, Probably with these incessant queries i may be bugging you. Its fine with me if you could just point me to some real hardcore docs i can read up to figure out a direct path to framing a rule set for my huge network. The lartc howto i have read in bits and pieces, any other specific tc docs talking about what i have in mind stef?? Trevor On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 23:26, Stef Coene wrote:> On Sunday 15 June 2003 01:46, Trevor Warren wrote: > > Hello there, > > > > Having made quite a lot of expensive mistakes i have finally clobbered > > together a script for the users on my network. > > > > Have a look at it and please suggest as to how can i limit bandwidth to > > each ip on this network to about 64Kbits. > You specify bandwidth 1mbit. But that should be your real nic bandwidth. So > 10mbit or 100mbit. If you want to share the same 1Mbit between some classes, > you have to add 1 bounded class with rate = 1mbit to the root qdisc and add > the other classes to that class. > Remove the isolated class, it''s not working and can even distubr your setup. > > Stef-- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
On Sunday 15 June 2003 01:46, Trevor Warren wrote:> Hello there, > > Having made quite a lot of expensive mistakes i have finally clobbered > together a script for the users on my network. > > Have a look at it and please suggest as to how can i limit bandwidth to > each ip on this network to about 64Kbits.You specify bandwidth 1mbit. But that should be your real nic bandwidth. So 10mbit or 100mbit. If you want to share the same 1Mbit between some classes, you have to add 1 bounded class with rate = 1mbit to the root qdisc and add the other classes to that class. Remove the isolated class, it''s not working and can even distubr your setup. Stef -- stef.coene@docum.org "Using Linux as bandwidth manager" http://www.docum.org/ #lartc @ irc.oftc.net _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
On Sunday 15 June 2003 08:27, Trevor Warren wrote:> Stef....;) > > Hats off to you. I am zapped as to how did you figure out the > "isolated" class wasn''t working???.I did some filter tests to see if you can split the traffic in different classes and how you have to do this. At the same time I tried the isolated parameter. If you have an isolated, not-bounded class, there is no shaping. As long as the classes are bounded, everything is working like it should be : http://www.docum.org/stef.coene/qos/tests/cbq/filter.html> Anyway Stef, i am glad that you have detected something without my > telling you. Have changed the same and have restarted the server. Lets > see. Its night time here in Bombay, hence am playing around with the > production machine. > > Stef, I need to traffic shape for my 1000 odd users on the network. Is > there a way to do it by having static qdisc''s /classes/filters inserted.It depends on how much control you want to have. If you want to have tied control, you have to create 1 class (filter) / user. Or you can try the wrr qdisc (you can find a link on www.docum.org). This qdisc can create 1 class for each filter/mac-address it sees and punish big downloaders by limiting the rate.> Also, can i do them on the fly by having them login cia a SUID ROOT ph > page and then get web access and thus adding/deleting these qdisc''s > /classes/filters on the fly???.Or you use a tc binary with a sticky bit so any user can execute tc and the execution is done as user root. Just wondering, you make all classes bounded. So they can not borrow bandwidth from each other. But if you do this, why do you create the classes 1:1 and 1:2 ?? And you use 2 filters to put the packets in the end class. You can do this in 1 step so you need only 1 filter. Just put the packets directly in the end class. If you are interested, I did some tests with filters and how the weight parameter influence the sharing between the filters : http://www.docum.org/stef.coene/qos/tests/cbq/splitting/splitting.html Stef -- stef.coene@docum.org "Using Linux as bandwidth manager" http://www.docum.org/ #lartc @ irc.oftc.net _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
On Sunday 15 June 2003 08:32, Trevor Warren wrote:> Hello Stef, > > Probably with these incessant queries i may be bugging you. Its fine > with me if you could just point me to some real hardcore docs i can read > up to figure out a direct path to framing a rule set for my huge > network. > > The lartc howto i have read in bits and pieces, any other specific tc > docs talking about what i have in mind stef??Not really. The problem is that each shaping problem needs an other script.I have some extra docs on www.docum.org, but even that will not help everybody. We can only give you some tips. Stef -- stef.coene@docum.org "Using Linux as bandwidth manager" http://www.docum.org/ #lartc @ irc.oftc.net _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Hello Stef, I want all these efforts ultimately to convert into a neat, ergonomic web interface for Traffic Shaping - Bandwidth Management for Enterprises which would be in the GPL domain on sourceforge. Though i am with a commercial organisation this is a personal effort and gpl is what the code will be in. Suggestions for the same would be appreciated stef. Trevor On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 00:29, Stef Coene wrote:> On Sunday 15 June 2003 08:27, Trevor Warren wrote: > > Stef....;) > > > > Hats off to you. I am zapped as to how did you figure out the > > "isolated" class wasn''t working???. > I did some filter tests to see if you can split the traffic in different > classes and how you have to do this. At the same time I tried the isolated > parameter. If you have an isolated, not-bounded class, there is no shaping. > As long as the classes are bounded, everything is working like it should be : > http://www.docum.org/stef.coene/qos/tests/cbq/filter.html > > > Anyway Stef, i am glad that you have detected something without my > > telling you. Have changed the same and have restarted the server. Lets > > see. Its night time here in Bombay, hence am playing around with the > > production machine. > > > > Stef, I need to traffic shape for my 1000 odd users on the network. Is > > there a way to do it by having static qdisc''s /classes/filters inserted. > It depends on how much control you want to have. If you want to have tied > control, you have to create 1 class (filter) / user. Or you can try the wrr > qdisc (you can find a link on www.docum.org). This qdisc can create 1 class > for each filter/mac-address it sees and punish big downloaders by limiting > the rate. > > > Also, can i do them on the fly by having them login cia a SUID ROOT ph > > page and then get web access and thus adding/deleting these qdisc''s > > /classes/filters on the fly???. > Or you use a tc binary with a sticky bit so any user can execute tc and the > execution is done as user root. > > Just wondering, you make all classes bounded. So they can not borrow > bandwidth from each other. But if you do this, why do you create the classes > 1:1 and 1:2 ?? > > And you use 2 filters to put the packets in the end class. You can do this in > 1 step so you need only 1 filter. Just put the packets directly in the end > class. If you are interested, I did some tests with filters and how the > weight parameter influence the sharing between the filters : > http://www.docum.org/stef.coene/qos/tests/cbq/splitting/splitting.html > > Stef-- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Hello Stef, thanks for the pointers. Think next time i should think before i leap. Am setting up your web interface. The demo suggests support for HTB hope CBQ is there in it too. Trevor On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 12:58, Stef Coene wrote:> On Sunday 15 June 2003 21:08, Trevor Warren wrote: > > Hello Stef, > > > > I want all these efforts ultimately to convert into a neat, ergonomic > > web interface for Traffic Shaping - Bandwidth Management for Enterprises > > which would be in the GPL domain on sourceforge. > Something like http://home.docum.org/qos/ :) > > > Though i am with a commercial organisation this is a personal effort > > and gpl is what the code will be in. > Me too. > > > Suggestions for the same would be appreciated stef. > Read all the bits you can find on www.docum.org :) > > Stef-- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Stef, Am setting the same up on my machine now. Want to understand how your code works. Getting support for cbq will be the next thing on the agenda. Your interface is quite neat though am trying to comprehend what the setup really can/can''t do. I have a whole list of options on the QOS front that we could look into and package the same for a cbd-htb qos setup. Lets have this done with a schedule and a plan of action. Time to time reviews will help us judge the progress we have made. I would like to hear your ideas on creating an Enterprise GUI interface for QOS-Traffic Shaping-Bandwidth Management to be gpl''ed. Trevor On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 13:52, Stef Coene wrote:> On Sunday 15 June 2003 21:49, Trevor Warren wrote: > > Hello Stef, > > > > thanks for the pointers. Think next time i should think before i leap. > > Am setting up your web interface. The demo suggests support for HTB hope > > CBQ is there in it too. > No, only htb. But the framework is there, so adding cbq support is not such a > big deal. But I also do a lot of rate/ceil checking with htb, so it''s not > only entering the values, but also checking the values to reduce user errors. > > But I''m very interested in creating a GUI interface. I also did some stuff > like you can see in the demo and it was harder then I thought. So if you > decide to restart it, let me know and I will help you as much as I can. > > Stef-- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
On Sunday 15 June 2003 21:08, Trevor Warren wrote:> Hello Stef, > > I want all these efforts ultimately to convert into a neat, ergonomic > web interface for Traffic Shaping - Bandwidth Management for Enterprises > which would be in the GPL domain on sourceforge.Something like http://home.docum.org/qos/ :)> Though i am with a commercial organisation this is a personal effort > and gpl is what the code will be in.Me too.> Suggestions for the same would be appreciated stef.Read all the bits you can find on www.docum.org :) Stef -- stef.coene@docum.org "Using Linux as bandwidth manager" http://www.docum.org/ #lartc @ irc.oftc.net _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
On Sunday 15 June 2003 21:49, Trevor Warren wrote:> Hello Stef, > > thanks for the pointers. Think next time i should think before i leap. > Am setting up your web interface. The demo suggests support for HTB hope > CBQ is there in it too.No, only htb. But the framework is there, so adding cbq support is not such a big deal. But I also do a lot of rate/ceil checking with htb, so it''s not only entering the values, but also checking the values to reduce user errors. But I''m very interested in creating a GUI interface. I also did some stuff like you can see in the demo and it was harder then I thought. So if you decide to restart it, let me know and I will help you as much as I can. Stef -- stef.coene@docum.org "Using Linux as bandwidth manager" http://www.docum.org/ #lartc @ irc.oftc.net _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
On Sunday 15 June 2003 22:46, Trevor Warren wrote:> Stef, > > Am setting the same up on my machine now. Want to understand how your > code works. Getting support for cbq will be the next thing on the > agenda. Your interface is quite neat though am trying to comprehend what > the setup really can/can''t do.The setup is based around some basic scripts. They are not so difficult to understand, but I sometimes had to mess around to get it working. There are still some bugs in it.> I have a whole list of options on the QOS front that we could look into > and package the same for a cbd-htb qos setup. Lets have this done with a > schedule and a plan of action. Time to time reviews will help us judge > the progress we have made. > > I would like to hear your ideas on creating an Enterprise GUI interface > for QOS-Traffic Shaping-Bandwidth Management to be gpl''ed.Ok, when do we start ? Stef -- stef.coene@docum.org "Using Linux as bandwidth manager" http://www.docum.org/ #lartc @ irc.oftc.net _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Hiyee Stef, Can we meet on irc?. Also, figure out a new section for the gui web/system on docum.org where we can put up the Road Map and TODO. We will attack the web first then the system. Web --> php System --> tcl/tk or Py-Gtk Wats say Stef??? Since we are in different time zones we may have to make some adjustments towards meeting up online. Will be out to a customers location through the morning so don''t mind if i don''t reply immideately. If you on irc sometime soon mail me on 9820349221@orangemail.co.in and i will get an sms stef. Keep all those ideas of yours brewing...;) Trevor On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 15:22, Stef Coene wrote:> On Sunday 15 June 2003 22:46, Trevor Warren wrote: > > Stef, > > > > Am setting the same up on my machine now. Want to understand how your > > code works. Getting support for cbq will be the next thing on the > > agenda. Your interface is quite neat though am trying to comprehend what > > the setup really can/can''t do. > The setup is based around some basic scripts. They are not so difficult to > understand, but I sometimes had to mess around to get it working. There are > still some bugs in it. > > > I have a whole list of options on the QOS front that we could look into > > and package the same for a cbd-htb qos setup. Lets have this done with a > > schedule and a plan of action. Time to time reviews will help us judge > > the progress we have made. > > > > I would like to hear your ideas on creating an Enterprise GUI interface > > for QOS-Traffic Shaping-Bandwidth Management to be gpl''ed. > Ok, when do we start ? > > Stef-- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Giannis, What does the script look like. How many different levels/classes have you broken them into???. Trevor On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 17:51, Giannis Stoilis wrote:> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trevor Warren" <trevorwarren@softhome.net> > To: "Giannis Stoilis" <giannis@stoilis.gr> > Sent: Τρίτη, 17 Ιουνίου 2003 2:51 πμ > Subject: Re: [LARTC] herz the script that i have done. > > > > We sure would appreciate your setup for a testing ground. Are you using > > cbq/htb/etc internally?? > > Yep. HTB actually, for shaping a 256kbit link. > > - Giannis-- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Hi all,
The rest of the conversation will be between me and Trevor. If anyone is
interested in following our GUI project, let me (or Trevor) know and we will
keep you informed.
Of course, if we create anything usefull, the lartc list will be informed.
Stef
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Hello Mr. Mohan, Are you fro India??. Anyway, an explorer like interface is okie with us too. But from my perspective we should rather give preference to a web based interface as of now since this would drastically expand the scope of deployment where Traffic Shaping can be performed on servers. X / windows based interface we will delve on but that would be the second step. Please go ahead and give us your ideas on creating an XML based configuration for the same which can be used for the web and the desktop config too. Using PHP with XML based configuration parameters would definitely make interoperability seamless for the long run. Do get back to us with your detailed ideas in terms of a premature white paper on the same. Trevor On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 08:36, S Mohan wrote:> I''ve also been thinking of creating a GUI based on XML with a Windows > explorer like interface. I''ve the idea. If you are open, I can feed you > the same. > > Mohan > > -----Original Message----- > From: lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl [mailto:lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl] > On Behalf Of Stef Coene > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:52 PM > To: Trevor Warren > Cc: lartc > Subject: Re: [LARTC] herz the script that i have done. > > > On Sunday 15 June 2003 21:49, Trevor Warren wrote: > > Hello Stef, > > > > thanks for the pointers. Think next time i should think before i > > leap. Am setting up your web interface. The demo suggests support for > > HTB hope CBQ is there in it too. > No, only htb. But the framework is there, so adding cbq support is not > such a > big deal. But I also do a lot of rate/ceil checking with htb, so it''s > not > only entering the values, but also checking the values to reduce user > errors. > > But I''m very interested in creating a GUI interface. I also did some > stuff > like you can see in the demo and it was harder then I thought. So if > you > decide to restart it, let me know and I will help you as much as I can. > > Stef-- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/