Rails - Feb 2007 - how to read RoR (ruby?) aloud?

Is there a recommended way to "speak" (orally or mentally) the
punctuation-loaded RoR (Ruby) constructs?

I''m guessing that

   : is silent
   => is spoken as "is"
   do |thing| is spoken as "do with thing"

so that a reader''s mind might be "say"
   create_table "containers_drinks", :id => false do |t|
as
  createtable containersdrinks with id as false do with t

PS. I know this is an odd question.  I ask because I''ve only seen any
of these symbols on a screen; nobody I know personally uses either
Ruby or RoR.  Does pronunciation matter?  Probably not, but I do
remember learning French vocabulary from a book with a poor
pronunciation key, and being embarrassed in class when I pronounced
things as they looked.  More seriously, though, I think forming a
mental sound may help people to adopt a language.  For example, I
adored APL back in the day, but I became aware that the language was
not catching on partly because people couldn''t talk about the code
aloud.


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Hi --

On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, dankelley wrote:
>
> Is there a recommended way to "speak" (orally or mentally) the
> punctuation-loaded RoR (Ruby) constructs?
>
> I''m guessing that
>
>   : is silent
>   => is spoken as "is"
>   do |thing| is spoken as "do with thing"
>
> so that a reader''s mind might be "say"
>   create_table "containers_drinks", :id => false do |t|
> as
>  createtable containersdrinks with id as false do with t
It''s a valiant attempt but I don''t think I''d know
what you were
talking about :-)
> PS. I know this is an odd question.  I ask because I''ve only seen
any
> of these symbols on a screen; nobody I know personally uses either
> Ruby or RoR.  Does pronunciation matter?  Probably not, but I do
> remember learning French vocabulary from a book with a poor
> pronunciation key, and being embarrassed in class when I pronounced
> things as they looked.  More seriously, though, I think forming a
> mental sound may help people to adopt a language.  For example, I
> adored APL back in the day, but I became aware that the language was
> not catching on partly because people couldn''t talk about the code
> aloud.
I just use lots of hand gestures :-)


David

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I don''t personally know any rubyists either, but I don''t ever
really
remember speaking or hearing C or Java (unless you count university
lectures, but even then the lecturer used an OHP or computer projector). I
don''t really think there is a standard way. I can understand what you
mean
about making it easier to learn if you know how to say it, but I''m
quite a
visual person, so I don''t really need to. If you would like to be able
to
speak it, just work out a standard that''s best for you and use that.

People don''t generally talk about code in that much detail unless they
are
at a computer in my experience. The only times I''ve ever talked about
coding, it''s been object structure, or at most, "I used a for-loop
to do
it," that sort of thing. Usually when talking about Java, I
could''ve been
talking about any OO language.

-Nathan

On 03/02/07, dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org
<dblack-TKXtfPMJ4Ozk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi --
>
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, dankelley wrote:
>
> >
> > Is there a recommended way to "speak" (orally or mentally)
the
> > punctuation-loaded RoR (Ruby) constructs?
> >
> > I''m guessing that
> >
> >   : is silent
> >   => is spoken as "is"
> >   do |thing| is spoken as "do with thing"
> >
> > so that a reader''s mind might be "say"
> >   create_table "containers_drinks", :id => false do |t|
> > as
> >  createtable containersdrinks with id as false do with t
>
> It''s a valiant attempt but I don''t think I''d
know what you were
> talking about :-)
>
> > PS. I know this is an odd question.  I ask because I''ve only
seen any
> > of these symbols on a screen; nobody I know personally uses either
> > Ruby or RoR.  Does pronunciation matter?  Probably not, but I do
> > remember learning French vocabulary from a book with a poor
> > pronunciation key, and being embarrassed in class when I pronounced
> > things as they looked.  More seriously, though, I think forming a
> > mental sound may help people to adopt a language.  For example, I
> > adored APL back in the day, but I became aware that the language was
> > not catching on partly because people couldn''t talk about the
code
> > aloud.
>
> I just use lots of hand gestures :-)
>
>
> David
>
> --
> Q. What is THE Ruby book for Rails developers?
> A. RUBY FOR RAILS by David A. Black (http://www.manning.com/black)
>     (See what readers are saying!  http://www.rubypal.com/r4rrevs.pdf)
> Q. Where can I get Ruby/Rails on-site training, consulting, coaching?
> A. Ruby Power and Light, LLC (http://www.rubypal.com)
>
> >
>
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