I''ve been seeing some strange behavior when using save! instead of save, and was wondering if anyone else has seen this. If a validation causes the save! to throw an exception, the ActiveRecord''s errors field is being reset, so that I cannot see and print the errors out via my template. The strange thing is that this only happens in one action, and if I use save instead, then the errors are still there. I tried putting breakpoints and log info in the code, and found the the object that fails validation is the same one as is provided for the template (so there''s no object.new or anything like that), and I see errors.clear getting called only once before the initial validate call. Anyone seen anything like this? Thanks, Joe