Hi!
I''ve got a problem with the search_generator. I do exactly like the
README file and it is not working :/
When I want to do a search, I go to http://website/search/mykeyword
and the errors returned :
NoMethodError in Search#index
undefined method `each'' for #<MockContents:0xb783d52c>
|app/controllers/search_controller.rb:18:in `search''
app/controllers/search_controller.rb:7:in `index''
script/server:50|
The line 18 corresponds to :
simple_index =
Search::Simple::Searcher.load(empty_contents,"#{File.dirname(__FILE__)}/../../db/search_cache")
The parameters seems to be ok because I have:
*Parameters*: {"search_terms"=>"mykeyword",
"count"=>"-1"}
I don''t understand what''s going on in this script :/
Thanks.
Hi, I left out a very important item in the README. You must first index your data by running the script/indexer script. This will create the search_cache file and you shouldn''t get that error anymore. I''ll release a new version of the the gem today with some updates. enjoy, -jeremy On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 12:13:41PM +0200, Bruno Celeste wrote:> Hi! > > I''ve got a problem with the search_generator. I do exactly like the > README file and it is not working :/ > When I want to do a search, I go to http://website/search/mykeyword > > and the errors returned : > > > NoMethodError in Search#index > > undefined method `each'' for #<MockContents:0xb783d52c> > > |app/controllers/search_controller.rb:18:in `search'' > app/controllers/search_controller.rb:7:in `index'' > script/server:50| > > > The line 18 corresponds to : > > simple_index = Search::Simple::Searcher.load(empty_contents,"#{File.dirname(__FILE__)}/../../db/search_cache") > > > The parameters seems to be ok because I have: > > *Parameters*: {"search_terms"=>"mykeyword", "count"=>"-1"} > > I don''t understand what''s going on in this script :/ > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-- ======================================================================= Jeremy Hinegardner jeremy-eg9WJcVQRd1EMKyauTCisw@public.gmane.org
I am currently using a SQL search in my project but am considering moving over to your generator (since 500 character queries aren''t exactly my thing). What I was wondering is how does indexing work? Is it something that I need to make a cron entry for and run periodically? Is it something that I can task whenever I make a data change that needs it (meaning is a slight update to the data much less costly or is every index rebuild the same)? Is it highly CPU intensive and somethiing I should be careful about? Sorry for the barrage of questions. Perhaps you can shed some light. Thanks, Brian On 4/24/05, Jeremy Hinegardner <jeremy-eg9WJcVQRd1EMKyauTCisw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi, > > I left out a very important item in the README. You must first index > your data by running the script/indexer script. This will create the > search_cache file and you shouldn''t get that error anymore. > > I''ll release a new version of the the gem today with some updates. > > enjoy, > > -jeremy > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 12:13:41PM +0200, Bruno Celeste wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I''ve got a problem with the search_generator. I do exactly like the > > README file and it is not working :/ > > When I want to do a search, I go to http://website/search/mykeyword > > > > and the errors returned : > > > > > > NoMethodError in Search#index > > > > undefined method `each'' for #<MockContents:0xb783d52c> > > > > |app/controllers/search_controller.rb:18:in `search'' > > app/controllers/search_controller.rb:7:in `index'' > > script/server:50| > > > > > > The line 18 corresponds to : > > > > simple_index = Search::Simple::Searcher.load(empty_contents,"#{File.dirname(__FILE__)}/../../db/search_cache") > > > > > > The parameters seems to be ok because I have: > > > > *Parameters*: {"search_terms"=>"mykeyword", "count"=>"-1"} > > > > I don''t understand what''s going on in this script :/ > > > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > -- > =======================================================================> Jeremy Hinegardner jeremy-eg9WJcVQRd1EMKyauTCisw@public.gmane.org > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- The years ahead pick up their dark bags. They move closer. There''s a slight rise in the silence then nothing. -- (If you''re receiving this in response to mail sent to bluczkie-OM76b2Iv3yLQjUSlxSEPGw@public.gmane.org, don''t be concerned This is my new address, but mail will be forwarded here indefinitely)
Thank you for your answer ;)
But I tested this script before and it doesn''t work :/
I copy the error:
script/indexer
Searching for Models...
Found Configuration
- class is not searchable
Found Category
- class is not searchable
Found Link
- class is not searchable
Found Item
- searching columns title,date,category_id,content,author_id
- indexed 5 records
Found Author
- no make_searchable fields
Found Comment
- no make_searchable fields
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:174:in
`create_indices'': undefined method `downcase'' for Tue Apr 19
15:06:02 CEST 2005:Time (NoMethodError)
from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in
`each''
from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in
`create_indices''
from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:143:in
`load''
from script/indexer:81
And the DB can''t be generated :/
thanks again.
Jeremy Hinegardner a écrit :
>Hi,
>
>I left out a very important item in the README. You must first index
>your data by running the script/indexer script. This will create the
>search_cache file and you shouldn''t get that error anymore.
>
>I''ll release a new version of the the gem today with some updates.
>
>enjoy,
>
>-jeremy
>
>On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 12:13:41PM +0200, Bruno Celeste wrote:
>
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>I''ve got a problem with the search_generator. I do exactly like
the
>>README file and it is not working :/
>>When I want to do a search, I go to http://website/search/mykeyword
>>
>>and the errors returned :
>>
>>
>> NoMethodError in Search#index
>>
>>undefined method `each'' for #<MockContents:0xb783d52c>
>>
>>|app/controllers/search_controller.rb:18:in `search''
>>app/controllers/search_controller.rb:7:in `index''
>>script/server:50|
>>
>>
>>The line 18 corresponds to :
>>
>>simple_index =
Search::Simple::Searcher.load(empty_contents,"#{File.dirname(__FILE__)}/../../db/search_cache")
>>
>>
>>The parameters seems to be ok because I have:
>>
>>*Parameters*: {"search_terms"=>"mykeyword",
"count"=>"-1"}
>>
>>I don''t understand what''s going on in this script :/
>>
>>Thanks.
>>_______________________________________________
>>Rails mailing list
>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
>>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
>>
>>
>
>
>
Bug are great things aren''t they. Looks like I''ll need to add a to_s() on all fields before passing them into SimpleSearch. I''m guessing your Item.date field is what is causing it. It can''t find a downcase() method on the Time class. I''ll add that in before releasing a new gem. enjoy, -jeremy On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 11:14:12PM +0200, Bruno Celeste wrote:> Thank you for your answer ;) > But I tested this script before and it doesn''t work :/ > I copy the error: > > script/indexer > Searching for Models... > Found Configuration > - class is not searchable > Found Category > - class is not searchable > Found Link > - class is not searchable > Found Item > - searching columns title,date,category_id,content,author_id > - indexed 5 records > Found Author > - no make_searchable fields > Found Comment > - no make_searchable fields > /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:174:in `create_indices'': undefined method `downcase'' for Tue Apr 19 15:06:02 CEST 2005:Time (NoMethodError) > from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in `each'' > from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in `create_indices'' > from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:143:in `load'' > from script/indexer:81 > > > And the DB can''t be generated :/ > > thanks again. > > Jeremy Hinegardner a écrit : > > >Hi, > > > >I left out a very important item in the README. You must first index > >your data by running the script/indexer script. This will create the > >search_cache file and you shouldn''t get that error anymore. > > > >I''ll release a new version of the the gem today with some updates. > > > >enjoy, > > > >-jeremy > > > >On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 12:13:41PM +0200, Bruno Celeste wrote: > > > > > >>Hi! > >> > >>I''ve got a problem with the search_generator. I do exactly like the > >>README file and it is not working :/ > >>When I want to do a search, I go to http://website/search/mykeyword > >> > >>and the errors returned : > >> > >> > >> NoMethodError in Search#index > >> > >>undefined method `each'' for #<MockContents:0xb783d52c> > >> > >>|app/controllers/search_controller.rb:18:in `search'' > >>app/controllers/search_controller.rb:7:in `index'' > >>script/server:50| > >> > >> > >>The line 18 corresponds to : > >> > >>simple_index = Search::Simple::Searcher.load(empty_contents,"#{File.dirname(__FILE__)}/../../db/search_cache") > >> > >> > >>The parameters seems to be ok because I have: > >> > >>*Parameters*: {"search_terms"=>"mykeyword", "count"=>"-1"} > >> > >>I don''t understand what''s going on in this script :/ > >> > >>Thanks. > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Rails mailing list > >>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > >>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >> > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-- ======================================================================= Jeremy Hinegardner jeremy-eg9WJcVQRd1EMKyauTCisw@public.gmane.org
Thank you for this answer :)
I upgraded the search generator and I get the same error. I even tried
to remove the date field from the searchable fields, but it doesn''t
work :/
I copy the error:
$ script/indexer
Loading config [/home/sadik/ruby/railsBlog/config/search.yml]
Searching for Models...
Found Configuration
- class is not searchable
Found Category
- class is not searchable
Found Link
- class is not searchable
Found Item
- searching columns title,category_id,content,author_id
- indexed 5 records
Found Author
- no make_searchable fields
Found Comment
- no make_searchable fields
creating index file /home/sadik/ruby/railsBlog/db/simple_search_index
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:174:in
`create_indices'': undefined method `downcase'' for 1:Fixnum
(NoMethodError)
from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in
`each''
from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in
`create_indices''
from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:143:in
`load''
from script/indexer:91:in `simple_index''
from script/indexer:96
But, if I remove all the fields except ''title'' and
''content'', ie remove
all id fields, it does work better, but not perfectly :/
Here the error:
$ script/indexer
Loading config [/home/sadik/ruby/railsBlog/config/search.yml]
Searching for Models...
Found Configuration
- class is not searchable
Found Category
- class is not searchable
Found Link
- class is not searchable
Found Item
- searching columns title,content
- indexed 5 records
Found Author
- no make_searchable fields
Found Comment
- no make_searchable fields
creating index file /home/sadik/ruby/railsBlog/db/simple_search_index
344 unique words out of 534 in 10 documents
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:153:in
`initialize'': No such file or directory -
./script/../config/../db/simple_search_index (Errno::ENOENT)
from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:153:in
`open''
from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:153:in
`dump''
from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:148:in
`load''
from script/indexer:91:in `simple_index''
from script/indexer:96
Apparently, the script can''t find the database which indexes words...
It
even doesn''t create the "db" directory so, it''s
normal...
Thank you again Jeremy ;)
Jeremy Hinegardner a écrit :
>Bug are great things aren''t they. Looks like I''ll need to
add a to_s() on
>all fields before passing them into SimpleSearch. I''m guessing
your
>Item.date field is what is causing it. It can''t find a downcase()
>method on the Time class.
>
>I''ll add that in before releasing a new gem.
>
>enjoy,
>
>-jeremy
>
>On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 11:14:12PM +0200, Bruno Celeste wrote:
>
>
>>Thank you for your answer ;)
>>But I tested this script before and it doesn''t work :/
>>I copy the error:
>>
>>script/indexer
>>Searching for Models...
>> Found Configuration
>> - class is not searchable
>> Found Category
>> - class is not searchable
>> Found Link
>> - class is not searchable
>> Found Item
>> - searching columns
title,date,category_id,content,author_id
>> - indexed 5 records
>> Found Author
>> - no make_searchable fields
>> Found Comment
>> - no make_searchable fields
>>/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:174:in
`create_indices'': undefined method `downcase'' for Tue Apr 19
15:06:02 CEST 2005:Time (NoMethodError)
>> from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in
`each''
>> from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in
`create_indices''
>> from
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:143:in
`load''
>> from script/indexer:81
>>
>>
>>And the DB can''t be generated :/
>>
>>thanks again.
>>
>>Jeremy Hinegardner a écrit :
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I left out a very important item in the README. You must first
index
>>>your data by running the script/indexer script. This will create
the
>>>search_cache file and you shouldn''t get that error anymore.
>>>
>>>I''ll release a new version of the the gem today with some
updates.
>>>
>>>enjoy,
>>>
>>>-jeremy
>>>
>>>On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 12:13:41PM +0200, Bruno Celeste wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi!
>>>>
>>>>I''ve got a problem with the search_generator. I do
exactly like the
>>>>README file and it is not working :/
>>>>When I want to do a search, I go to
http://website/search/mykeyword
>>>>
>>>>and the errors returned :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NoMethodError in Search#index
>>>>
>>>>undefined method `each'' for
#<MockContents:0xb783d52c>
>>>>
>>>>|app/controllers/search_controller.rb:18:in `search''
>>>>app/controllers/search_controller.rb:7:in `index''
>>>>script/server:50|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The line 18 corresponds to :
>>>>
>>>>simple_index =
Search::Simple::Searcher.load(empty_contents,"#{File.dirname(__FILE__)}/../../db/search_cache")
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The parameters seems to be ok because I have:
>>>>
>>>>*Parameters*:
{"search_terms"=>"mykeyword",
"count"=>"-1"}
>>>>
>>>>I don''t understand what''s going on in this
script :/
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>Rails mailing list
>>>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
>>>>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Rails mailing list
>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
>>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
>>
>>
>
>
>
So, I successed :p In fact, I create the dir "db" and the file "simple_search_index" and it works perfectly! I have always the same error if I want to search in ID field or date field... but it''s not very important to me. Bruno Celeste a écrit :>Thank you for this answer :) >I upgraded the search generator and I get the same error. I even tried >to remove the date field from the searchable fields, but it doesn''t work :/ > >I copy the error: > >$ script/indexer > >Loading config [/home/sadik/ruby/railsBlog/config/search.yml] > >Searching for Models... > > Found Configuration > > - class is not searchable > > Found Category > > - class is not searchable > > Found Link > > - class is not searchable > > Found Item > > - searching columns title,category_id,content,author_id > > - indexed 5 records > > Found Author > > - no make_searchable fields > > Found Comment > > - no make_searchable fields > >creating index file /home/sadik/ruby/railsBlog/db/simple_search_index > >/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:174:in `create_indices'': undefined method `downcase'' for 1:Fixnum (NoMethodError) > > from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in `each'' > > from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in `create_indices'' > > from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:143:in `load'' > > from script/indexer:91:in `simple_index'' > > from script/indexer:96 > > >But, if I remove all the fields except ''title'' and ''content'', ie remove >all id fields, it does work better, but not perfectly :/ >Here the error: > >$ script/indexer > >Loading config [/home/sadik/ruby/railsBlog/config/search.yml] > >Searching for Models... > > Found Configuration > > - class is not searchable > > Found Category > > - class is not searchable > > Found Link > > - class is not searchable > > Found Item > > - searching columns title,content > > - indexed 5 records > > Found Author > > - no make_searchable fields > > Found Comment > > - no make_searchable fields > >creating index file /home/sadik/ruby/railsBlog/db/simple_search_index > >344 unique words out of 534 in 10 documents > >/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:153:in `initialize'': No such file or directory - ./script/../config/../db/simple_search_index (Errno::ENOENT) > > from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:153:in `open'' > > from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:153:in `dump'' > > from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:148:in `load'' > > from script/indexer:91:in `simple_index'' > > from script/indexer:96 > > >Apparently, the script can''t find the database which indexes words... It >even doesn''t create the "db" directory so, it''s normal... > >Thank you again Jeremy ;) > > >Jeremy Hinegardner a écrit : > > > >>Bug are great things aren''t they. Looks like I''ll need to add a to_s() on >>all fields before passing them into SimpleSearch. I''m guessing your >>Item.date field is what is causing it. It can''t find a downcase() >>method on the Time class. >> >>I''ll add that in before releasing a new gem. >> >>enjoy, >> >>-jeremy >> >>On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 11:14:12PM +0200, Bruno Celeste wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Thank you for your answer ;) >>>But I tested this script before and it doesn''t work :/ >>>I copy the error: >>> >>>script/indexer >>>Searching for Models... >>> Found Configuration >>> - class is not searchable >>> Found Category >>> - class is not searchable >>> Found Link >>> - class is not searchable >>> Found Item >>> - searching columns title,date,category_id,content,author_id >>> - indexed 5 records >>> Found Author >>> - no make_searchable fields >>> Found Comment >>> - no make_searchable fields >>>/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:174:in `create_indices'': undefined method `downcase'' for Tue Apr 19 15:06:02 CEST 2005:Time (NoMethodError) >>> from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in `each'' >>> from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:171:in `create_indices'' >>> from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/SimpleSearch-0.5.0/lib/search/simple/searcher.rb:143:in `load'' >>> from script/indexer:81 >>> >>> >>>And the DB can''t be generated :/ >>> >>>thanks again. >>> >>>Jeremy Hinegardner a écrit : >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>I left out a very important item in the README. You must first index >>>>your data by running the script/indexer script. This will create the >>>>search_cache file and you shouldn''t get that error anymore. >>>> >>>>I''ll release a new version of the the gem today with some updates. >>>> >>>>enjoy, >>>> >>>>-jeremy >>>> >>>>On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 12:13:41PM +0200, Bruno Celeste wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi! >>>>> >>>>>I''ve got a problem with the search_generator. I do exactly like the >>>>>README file and it is not working :/ >>>>>When I want to do a search, I go to http://website/search/mykeyword >>>>> >>>>>and the errors returned : >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>NoMethodError in Search#index >>>>> >>>>>undefined method `each'' for #<MockContents:0xb783d52c> >>>>> >>>>>|app/controllers/search_controller.rb:18:in `search'' >>>>>app/controllers/search_controller.rb:7:in `index'' >>>>>script/server:50| >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>The line 18 corresponds to : >>>>> >>>>>simple_index = Search::Simple::Searcher.load(empty_contents,"#{File.dirname(__FILE__)}/../../db/search_cache") >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>The parameters seems to be ok because I have: >>>>> >>>>>*Parameters*: {"search_terms"=>"mykeyword", "count"=>"-1"} >>>>> >>>>>I don''t understand what''s going on in this script :/ >>>>> >>>>>Thanks. >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Rails mailing list >>>>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>>>>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Rails mailing list >>>Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >>>http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Rails mailing list >Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >