Rails - Apr 2005 - New Manual: Using Gettext To Translate Your Rails Application

Hi,

I have just published a new manual which I have been working on last 
week. It is called "Using Gettext To Translate Your Rails Application"
and it is supposed to show you exactly, well, that.

http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/book/16

As this is my first stab at doing this with Rails I would greatly 
appreaciate any comments. Maybe you spot an error, an ill formed 
sentence or you have an idea to make this appraoch even better. Just let 
me know and we can try to make this guide even better.

Now, people have been talking that Rails is going to have its own 
integrated way of doing translation and localization / 
internationalization in the future which "might" make this approach an
"alternative" by the time we will see the new functionality. 
Nevertheless, this approach works today and tries to leverage as many 
existant tools as possible. So, if you need translation right now, like 
I do, this might just be something you might want to look into.

Have fun reading it.

Sascha Ebach

> I have just published a new manual which I have been working on last 
> week. It is called "Using Gettext To Translate Your Rails
Application"
> and it is supposed to show you exactly, well, that.
> 
> http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/book/16
I can not thank you enough for this excellent guide! You just removed
what may be the last barrier to ditching Zope in favor of Rails for my
employer!



Thanks!
-Dane

Dane Jensen wrote:
>>I have just published a new manual which I have been working on last 
>>week. It is called "Using Gettext To Translate Your Rails
Application"
>>and it is supposed to show you exactly, well, that.
>>
>>http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/book/16
> 
> 
> I can not thank you enough for this excellent guide! You just removed
> what may be the last barrier to ditching Zope in favor of Rails for my
> employer!
Thank you,

I am glad it is of so much use to you, so all the time invested was not 
for nothing.

Sascha

Thanks a lot for this. I''m sure some day in the future I''ll be
enormously thankful for having read this :)

UTF-8 it is

On Apr 3, 2005 9:52 PM, Sascha Ebach
<se-eFwX6J65rk9VioaHkBSlcw02NpfuEekPhC4ANOJQIlc@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Dane Jensen wrote:
> >>I have just published a new manual which I have been working on
last
> >>week. It is called "Using Gettext To Translate Your Rails
Application"
> >>and it is supposed to show you exactly, well, that.
> >>
> >>http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/book/16
> >
> >
> > I can not thank you enough for this excellent guide! You just removed
> > what may be the last barrier to ditching Zope in favor of Rails for my
> > employer!
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> I am glad it is of so much use to you, so all the time invested was not
> for nothing.
> 
> Sascha
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Hi,

thanks alot for this informative article. I always forget DRY. So why 
make another lib or so, where there is ol'' good way to do things.
I''ll
still need some code for czech specific stuff, but the main problem 
with messages is out :-). Now I only need how to break Mac OSX to use 
utf-8 in terminal with vim. Trying for hour now, and still don''t have 
luck.
--
Pepe
On 3.4.2005, at 17:12, Sascha Ebach wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just published a new manual which I have been working on last 
> week. It is called "Using Gettext To Translate Your Rails
Application"
> and it is supposed to show you exactly, well, that.
>
> http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/book/16
>
> As this is my first stab at doing this with Rails I would greatly 
> appreaciate any comments. Maybe you spot an error, an ill formed 
> sentence or you have an idea to make this appraoch even better. Just 
> let me know and we can try to make this guide even better.
>
> Now, people have been talking that Rails is going to have its own 
> integrated way of doing translation and localization / 
> internationalization in the future which "might" make this
approach an
> "alternative" by the time we will see the new functionality. 
> Nevertheless, this approach works today and tries to leverage as many 
> existant tools as possible. So, if you need translation right now, 
> like I do, this might just be something you might want to look into.
>
> Have fun reading it.
>
> Sascha Ebach
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>

Thank you so much, this is really appreciated. Just what I needed.

/Tomas

On Apr 3, 2005 5:12 PM, Sascha Ebach
<se-eFwX6J65rk9VioaHkBSlcw02NpfuEekPhC4ANOJQIlc@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have just published a new manual which I have been working on last
> week. It is called "Using Gettext To Translate Your Rails
Application"
> and it is supposed to show you exactly, well, that.
> 
> http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/book/16
> 
> As this is my first stab at doing this with Rails I would greatly
> appreaciate any comments. Maybe you spot an error, an ill formed
> sentence or you have an idea to make this appraoch even better. Just let
> me know and we can try to make this guide even better.
> 
> Now, people have been talking that Rails is going to have its own
> integrated way of doing translation and localization /
> internationalization in the future which "might" make this
approach an
> "alternative" by the time we will see the new functionality.
> Nevertheless, this approach works today and tries to leverage as many
> existant tools as possible. So, if you need translation right now, like
> I do, this might just be something you might want to look into.
> 
> Have fun reading it.
> 
> Sascha Ebach
> _______________________________________________
> Rails mailing list
> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
>

Absolutely fantastic work. This was exactly what I have been looking for.

On Apr 3, 2005 5:12 PM, Sascha Ebach
<se-eFwX6J65rk9VioaHkBSlcw02NpfuEekPhC4ANOJQIlc@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have just published a new manual which I have been working on last
> week. It is called "Using Gettext To Translate Your Rails
Application"
> and it is supposed to show you exactly, well, that.
> 
> http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/book/16
> 
> As this is my first stab at doing this with Rails I would greatly
> appreaciate any comments. Maybe you spot an error, an ill formed
> sentence or you have an idea to make this appraoch even better. Just let
> me know and we can try to make this guide even better.
> 
> Now, people have been talking that Rails is going to have its own
> integrated way of doing translation and localization /
> internationalization in the future which "might" make this
approach an
> "alternative" by the time we will see the new functionality.
> Nevertheless, this approach works today and tries to leverage as many
> existant tools as possible. So, if you need translation right now, like
> I do, this might just be something you might want to look into.
> 
> Have fun reading it.
> 
> Sascha Ebach
> _______________________________________________
> Rails mailing list
> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
> 


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I don''t know how it works with Vim, but on my Powerbook the terminals 
are automatically UTF-ed like so:

in my ~/.inputrc

set convert-meta Off
set input-meta On
set output-meta On

in my ~/.profile

LANG="ru_RU.UTF-8"
export LANG

On 4-apr-05, at 9:07, Josef Pospisil wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thanks alot for this informative article. I always forget DRY. So why 
> make another lib or so, where there is ol'' good way to do things.
I''ll
> still need some code for czech specific stuff, but the main problem 
> with messages is out :-). Now I only need how to break Mac OSX to use 
> utf-8 in terminal with vim. Trying for hour now, and still don''t
have
> luck.
--
Julian "Julik" Tarkhanov

On Apr 4, 2005, at 12:07 AM, Josef Pospisil wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thanks alot for this informative article. I always forget DRY. So why 
> make another lib or so, where there is ol'' good way to do things.
I''ll
> still need some code for czech specific stuff, but the main problem 
> with messages is out :-). Now I only need how to break Mac OSX to use 
> utf-8 in terminal with vim. Trying for hour now, and still don''t
have
> luck.
I found this info on encoding with vim:

   http://vim.sourceforge.net/tips/tip.php?tip_id=246

Then I compiling vim 6.3 with:

   ./configure --enable-rubyinterp --enable-multibyte
   make
   sudo make install

Then put this code in my .vimrc:

if has("multi_byte")
   set encoding=utf-8
   setglobal fileencoding=utf-8
   set bomb
   set termencoding=utf-8
   set fileencodings=ucs-bom,iso-8859-15,iso-8859-3,utf-8
else
   echoerr "Sorry, this version of (g)vim was not compiled with 
+multi_byte"
endif

Now /usr/local/bin/vim seems to be showing multibyte characters 
(instead of "?") in Terminal.      Hopefully this technique will work 
for you, or at least get you a little closer...

Zach

Yes but in vim < 7 it''s imposible. And 7 is alpha :-).

It didn''t even work with recompiling as Zach said.

----
Pepe
On 4.4.2005, at 16:40, Julian ''Julik'' Tarkhanov wrote:
> I don''t know how it works with Vim, but on my Powerbook the
terminals
> are automatically UTF-ed like so:
>
> in my ~/.inputrc
>
> set convert-meta Off
> set input-meta On
> set output-meta On
>
> in my ~/.profile
>
> LANG="ru_RU.UTF-8"
> export LANG
>
> On 4-apr-05, at 9:07, Josef Pospisil wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thanks alot for this informative article. I always forget DRY. So why 
>> make another lib or so, where there is ol'' good way to do
things.
>> I''ll still need some code for czech specific stuff, but the
main
>> problem with messages is out :-). Now I only need how to break Mac 
>> OSX to use utf-8 in terminal with vim. Trying for hour now, and still 
>> don''t have luck.
>
> --
> Julian "Julik" Tarkhanov
>
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>

Sascha Ebach wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just published a new manual which I have been working on last 
> week. It is called "Using Gettext To Translate Your Rails
Application"
> and it is supposed to show you exactly, well, that.
>
> http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/book/16
>
> As this is my first stab at doing this with Rails I would greatly 
> appreaciate any comments. Maybe you spot an error, an ill formed 
> sentence or you have an idea to make this appraoch even better. Just 
> let me know and we can try to make this guide even better.
>
> Now, people have been talking that Rails is going to have its own 
> integrated way of doing translation and localization / 
> internationalization in the future which "might" make this
approach an
> "alternative" by the time we will see the new functionality. 
> Nevertheless, this approach works today and tries to leverage as many 
> existant tools as possible. So, if you need translation right now, 
> like I do, this might just be something you might want to look into.
>
> Have fun reading it.
>
> Sascha Ebach
> _______________________________________________
> Rails mailing list
> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
>
>
Excellent work Sascha!!

I have hade some problems getting the whole thing to work on my Windows 
XP machine.
Installed all software needed and created the folders etc...

But when i run the "ruby script\localize" it get stuck on the second 
file, that happends to be by application.rb controller.
Outout:
  D:\Binaries\RailAppz\T2MRails>ruby script\localize
  Processing app/controllers/account_controller.rb
  Processing app/controllers/application.rb

The CPU usage goes high (75-90%),  I even left it over night with no 
progress.
Anyone else experienced this problem?

Regards JoNtE

> But when i run the "ruby script\localize" it get stuck on the
second
> file, that happends to be by application.rb controller.
> Outout:
>  D:\Binaries\RailAppz\T2MRails>ruby script\localize
>  Processing app/controllers/account_controller.rb
>  Processing app/controllers/application.rb
> 
> The CPU usage goes high (75-90%),  I even left it over night with no 
> progress.
> Anyone else experienced this problem?
Yes, a lot of the files in the archive at the end of the article are 
MS-DOS files (or some other horrible format). Try to fix the files (or 
retype them) and it will work fine.

Kind regards,

Erik Terpstra.

Jonas Montonen wrote:
> I have hade some problems getting the whole thing to work on my Windows 
> XP machine.
> Installed all software needed and created the folders etc...
> 
> But when i run the "ruby script\localize" it get stuck on the
second
> file, that happends to be by application.rb controller.
> Outout:
>  D:\Binaries\RailAppz\T2MRails>ruby script\localize
>  Processing app/controllers/account_controller.rb
>  Processing app/controllers/application.rb
> 
> The CPU usage goes high (75-90%),  I even left it over night with no 
> progress.
> Anyone else experienced this problem?
For some reason I had the same problem. What fixed it for me was that I 
opened the file that "hung" the system in gvim and saved it as utf-8 
with unix line endings. On the next run they were properly processed.

Sascha

Erik Terpstra wrote:
>> But when i run the "ruby script\localize" it get stuck on the
second
>> file, that happends to be by application.rb controller.
>> Outout:
>>  D:\Binaries\RailAppz\T2MRails>ruby script\localize
>>  Processing app/controllers/account_controller.rb
>>  Processing app/controllers/application.rb
>>
>> The CPU usage goes high (75-90%),  I even left it over night with no 
>> progress.
>> Anyone else experienced this problem?
> 
> 
> Yes, a lot of the files in the archive at the end of the article are 
> MS-DOS files (or some other horrible format). Try to fix the files (or 
> retype them) and it will work fine.
I will look into that and fix it. Thanks for pointing it out. I guess 
that happens because I always switch working environments between 
Windows and Linux.

Thank you

Do your other programs work with UTF in the terminal? (ls, mkdir etc..)
If the do then the problem is in vim itself.

Besides, I got no idea how to enable UTF in Apple''s X11 (if Vim is an X
app) - it seems to me that it was spooged from the beginning beyound 
any recovery.

On 5-apr-05, at 22:49, Josef Pospisil wrote:
> Yes but in vim < 7 it''s imposible. And 7 is alpha :-).
>
> It didn''t even work with recompiling as Zach said.
>
> ------
Julian "Julik" Tarkhanov

Everything except vim. I can list files with utf, and it''s only that 
half of accented letters are good, half are realy weird. But I found, 
I''m not only one in this position here and only solution seems to be 
using 7 alpha, which on the other side works great so :-).

But poEdit on mac os x anyone? I compiled everything but after starting 
application it shows to me only window that I must fill email and name 
for catalog header, but window is "untouchable" like there is another 
one, which is hidden or something. Not showstopper so ...

--
Ing. Josef Pospisil
On 6.4.2005, at 14:13, Julian ''Julik'' Tarkhanov wrote:
> Do your other programs work with UTF in the terminal? (ls, mkdir etc..)
> If the do then the problem is in vim itself.
>
> Besides, I got no idea how to enable UTF in Apple''s X11 (if Vim is
an
> X app) - it seems to me that it was spooged from the beginning beyound 
> any recovery.
>
> On 5-apr-05, at 22:49, Josef Pospisil wrote:
>
>> Yes but in vim < 7 it''s imposible. And 7 is alpha :-).
>>
>> It didn''t even work with recompiling as Zach said.
>>
>> ------
> Julian "Julik" Tarkhanov
>
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On Apr 6, 2005 6:54 AM, Sascha Ebach
<se-eFwX6J65rk9VioaHkBSlcw02NpfuEekPhC4ANOJQIlc@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Erik Terpstra wrote:
> >> But when i run the "ruby script\localize" it get stuck
on the second
> >> file, that happends to be by application.rb controller.
> >> Outout:
> >>  D:\Binaries\RailAppz\T2MRails>ruby script\localize
> >>  Processing app/controllers/account_controller.rb
> >>  Processing app/controllers/application.rb
> >>
> >> The CPU usage goes high (75-90%),  I even left it over night with
no
> >> progress.
> >> Anyone else experienced this problem?
> >
> >
> > Yes, a lot of the files in the archive at the end of the article are
> > MS-DOS files (or some other horrible format). Try to fix the files (or
> > retype them) and it will work fine.
> 
> I will look into that and fix it. Thanks for pointing it out. I guess
> that happens because I always switch working environments between
> Windows and Linux.

That may fix a symptom, but is not the problem something with file I/O
and DOS line-endings?  (Or is it the ^Z at the end?)

What''s actually /causing/ the hang?

Michael Campbell wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2005 6:54 AM, Sascha Ebach
<se-eFwX6J65rk9VioaHkBSlcw02NpfuEekPhC4ANOJQIlc@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
>>Erik Terpstra wrote:
>>
>>>>But when i run the "ruby script\localize" it get stuck
on the second
>>>>file, that happends to be by application.rb controller.
>>>>Outout:
>>>> D:\Binaries\RailAppz\T2MRails>ruby script\localize
>>>> Processing app/controllers/account_controller.rb
>>>> Processing app/controllers/application.rb
>>>>
>>>>The CPU usage goes high (75-90%),  I even left it over night
with no
>>>>progress.
>>>>Anyone else experienced this problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, a lot of the files in the archive at the end of the article are
>>>MS-DOS files (or some other horrible format). Try to fix the files
(or
>>>retype them) and it will work fine.
>>
>>I will look into that and fix it. Thanks for pointing it out. I guess
>>that happens because I always switch working environments between
>>Windows and Linux.
> 
> 
> 
> That may fix a symptom, but is not the problem something with file I/O
> and DOS line-endings?  (Or is it the ^Z at the end?)
> 
> What''s actually /causing/ the hang?
I haven''t investigated further. The hangs must have come from the rails
generator because they only happened before I resaved them. I had a hang 
on a file with 2 lines. I guess someone could investigate by creating a 
new rails directory and running the script in it. I will do it 
eventually, but I am a little time pressed right now.

Sascha

Erik Terpstra wrote:
>> But when i run the "ruby script\localize" it get stuck on the
second
>> file, that happends to be by application.rb controller.
>> Outout:
>>  D:\Binaries\RailAppz\T2MRails>ruby script\localize
>>  Processing app/controllers/account_controller.rb
>>  Processing app/controllers/application.rb
>>
>> The CPU usage goes high (75-90%),  I even left it over night with no
>> progress.
>> Anyone else experienced this problem?
> 
> 
> Yes, a lot of the files in the archive at the end of the article are
> MS-DOS files (or some other horrible format). Try to fix the files (or
> retype them) and it will work fine.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Erik Terpstra.
Another problem occurs when running script/localize:

it seems that in line 18 : ''RGettext.new.start files, potfile''
,
"RGettext.new.start"  starts in the background, which causes the rest
of
the script to fail, because there is not filled potfile yet.

i assume it does work under windows, because threading is working
different there....:)

any suggestions on how to make "RGettext.new.start" finish beefore
proceeding?

tanx in advance,

Mischa Molhoek.

Mischa Molhoek wrote:
> Another problem occurs when running script/localize:
> 
> it seems that in line 18 : ''RGettext.new.start files,
potfile'' ,
> "RGettext.new.start"  starts in the background, which causes the
rest of
> the script to fail, because there is not filled potfile yet.
> 
> i assume it does work under windows, because threading is working
> different there....:)
> 
> any suggestions on how to make "RGettext.new.start" finish
beefore
> proceeding?
It is not a threading problem, the IO instance called ''@out''
is opened,
but never closed. So it is only closed when the Ruby process 
''./script/localize'' has finished. As a consequence the po
files aren''t
merged correctly.

You have to fix the file: script/rgettext.rb

Add this line:

     @out.close

just above the ''end'' statement of ''def
start(files=ARGV, output = nil)''
(line: 73)

Erik Terpstra.

Erik Terpstra wrote:
> Mischa Molhoek wrote:
> 
>> Another problem occurs when running script/localize:
>>
>> it seems that in line 18 : ''RGettext.new.start files,
potfile'' ,
>> "RGettext.new.start"  starts in the background, which causes
the rest of
>> the script to fail, because there is not filled potfile yet.
>>
>> i assume it does work under windows, because threading is working
>> different there....:)
>>
>> any suggestions on how to make "RGettext.new.start" finish
beefore
>> proceeding?
> 
> 
> It is not a threading problem, the IO instance called
''@out'' is opened,
> but never closed. So it is only closed when the Ruby process 
> ''./script/localize'' has finished. As a consequence the po
files aren''t
> merged correctly.
> 
> You have to fix the file: script/rgettext.rb
> 
> Add this line:
> 
>     @out.close
> 
> just above the ''end'' statement of ''def
start(files=ARGV, output = nil)''
> (line: 73)
Ahh, thank you, I applied the patch and uploaded the new archive

http://digitale-wertschoepfung.de/artikel/gettext/using-gettext-with-rails.tgz

Sascha

Sascha Ebach wrote:
> Ahh, thank you, I applied the patch and uploaded the new archive
And thank you for providing localization support in Rails :-)
> 
>
http://digitale-wertschoepfung.de/artikel/gettext/using-gettext-with-rails.tgz
> 
> 
> Sascha

On Apr 3, 2005 5:12 PM, Sascha Ebach
<se-eFwX6J65rk9VioaHkBSlcw02NpfuEekPhC4ANOJQIlc@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have just published a new manual which I have been working on last
> week. It is called "Using Gettext To Translate Your Rails
Application"
> and it is supposed to show you exactly, well, that.
> 
> http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/book/16
Thanks, very interesting.

I have an internationalised site for which I have a dedicated solution
which has some benefits:
all data is stored in a db and translations can be managed via a web
interface (so I can tell a translator "go to that url and you have the
tool", and there''s no exchange of translation files, everything is
immediately on the server).

Do you know if something similar is possible with gettext?

Raph

> I have an internationalised site for which I have a dedicated solution
> which has some benefits:
> all data is stored in a db and translations can be managed via a web
> interface (so I can tell a translator "go to that url and you have the
> tool", and there''s no exchange of translation files,
everything is
> immediately on the server).
> 
> Do you know if something similar is possible with gettext?
Gettext is a file-based solution, so I would say no. You could certainly 
  built something that wraps around Gettext. Also, as it is, the server 
has to be restarted for new translations to show up. I guess you could 
hack around this.

A solution like you are talking about is being developed, but it will 
still take some time before we see a finished version. The author is not 
planning to use Gettext in it, so the approach I introduced will be an 
"alternative" sometime in the future. He will probably use some YAML 
based file for holding the strings.

It all depends on how integrated and comfortable it will be to use this 
solution when doing updates and merges. The project is in its planning 
stages so I am inclined to say no more about it ;)

Maybe you can find out more on the channel. Ask Ulysses ;)

Sascha

On Apr 6, 2005 6:09 PM, Sascha Ebach
<se-eFwX6J65rk9VioaHkBSlcw02NpfuEekPhC4ANOJQIlc@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> > I have an internationalised site for which I have a dedicated solution
> > which has some benefits:
> > all data is stored in a db and translations can be managed via a web
> > interface (so I can tell a translator "go to that url and you
have the
> > tool", and there''s no exchange of translation files,
everything is
> > immediately on the server).
> >
> > Do you know if something similar is possible with gettext?
> 
> Gettext is a file-based solution, so I would say no. You could certainly
>   built something that wraps around Gettext. Also, as it is, the server
> has to be restarted for new translations to show up. I guess you could
> hack around this.
> 
> A solution like you are talking about is being developed, but it will
> still take some time before we see a finished version. The author is not
> planning to use Gettext in it, so the approach I introduced will be an
> "alternative" sometime in the future. He will probably use some
YAML
> based file for holding the strings.
> 
> It all depends on how integrated and comfortable it will be to use this
> solution when doing updates and merges. The project is in its planning
> stages so I am inclined to say no more about it ;)
> 
> Maybe you can find out more on the channel. Ask Ulysses ;)
ok.

I''ll certainly have to develop a simple solution myself to fit my
needs (db bakend, web interface to translate).
I''ll be happy to share it and will communicate about it on this ML
when it eventually materializes in some weeks time.

thanks for the precisions about gettext.

Raph

> 
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Hi Sascha,

Sascha Ebach wrote:
>> It is not a threading problem, the IO instance called
''@out'' is
>> opened, but never closed. So it is only closed when the Ruby process
>> ''./script/localize'' has finished. As a consequence
the po files aren''t
>> merged correctly.
>>
>> You have to fix the file: script/rgettext.rb
>>
>> Add this line:
>>
>>     @out.close
>>
>> just above the ''end'' statement of ''def
start(files=ARGV, output = nil)''
>> (line: 73)
>  
> Ahh, thank you, I applied the patch and uploaded the new archive
> 
>
http://digitale-wertschoepfung.de/artikel/gettext/using-gettext-with-rails.tgz
>
> Sascha
Thank you very much for the excellent manual.
I have found only one little annoyance: when I open the messages.po file
in poEdit and click on a string I can open the ruby source file from
"References:" if the string is used in a .rb file. But when the string
is used in RHTML file this is not possible, because in "References:" I
get the name of the temporary file generated with erb. To fix this I
have created a small patch, which replaces temporary file with the
original RHTML filename in the tokens, returned by RubyParser.parse. Now
I can see the real references for strings contained in RHTML files too :)

diff rgettext.rb rgettext-patched.rb:

60a61
>           old_index = ary.size - 1
61a63,68
>                     #replace tokens with /tmp/... with real file names
>           for i in old_index..ary.size-1
>             for j in 0..ary[i].size-1
>               ary[i][j] = ary[i][j].gsub("#{tf.path}", file)
>             end
>           end
(Just insert the lines above after tf.close statement)

Best regards,

Luben

Hello Luben,
> Thank you very much for the excellent manual.
> I have found only one little annoyance: when I open the messages.po file
> in poEdit and click on a string I can open the ruby source file from
> "References:" if the string is used in a .rb file. But when the
string
> is used in RHTML file this is not possible, because in
"References:" I
> get the name of the temporary file generated with erb. To fix this I
> have created a small patch, which replaces temporary file with the
> original RHTML filename in the tokens, returned by RubyParser.parse. Now
> I can see the real references for strings contained in RHTML files too :)
> 
> diff rgettext.rb rgettext-patched.rb:
> 
> 60a61
> 
>>          old_index = ary.size - 1
> 
> 61a63,68
> 
>>                    #replace tokens with /tmp/... with real file names
>>          for i in old_index..ary.size-1
>>            for j in 0..ary[i].size-1
>>              ary[i][j] = ary[i][j].gsub("#{tf.path}", file)
>>            end
>>          end
Thanks for the patch. It doesn''t seem to fully work for me though. It 
seems to work on some strings but not on others. Haven''t looked into it
further. If this would work I''d be glad to include it.

I haven''t attempted this myself because I didn''t investigate
if the line
numbers are still accurate after Erb has compiled the templates.

Thx
Sascha

Oops,

I meant to paste this:

#: /tmp/erb-gettext4595.0:8
msgid "No"
msgstr ""

#: app/views/layouts/account.rhtml:8
msgid "Yes"
msgstr ""

Sascha

Sascha Ebach wrote:
> Erik Terpstra wrote:
> 
>> Mischa Molhoek wrote:
>>
>>> Another problem occurs when running script/localize:
>>>
>>> it seems that in line 18 : ''RGettext.new.start files,
potfile'' ,
>>> "RGettext.new.start"  starts in the background, which
causes the rest of
>>> the script to fail, because there is not filled potfile yet.
>>>
>>> i assume it does work under windows, because threading is working
>>> different there....:)
>>>
>>> any suggestions on how to make "RGettext.new.start"
finish beefore
>>> proceeding?
>>
>>
>>
>> It is not a threading problem, the IO instance called
''@out'' is
>> opened, but never closed. So it is only closed when the Ruby process
>> ''./script/localize'' has finished. As a consequence
the po files aren''t
>> merged correctly.
>>
>> You have to fix the file: script/rgettext.rb
>>
>> Add this line:
>>
>>     @out.close
>>
>> just above the ''end'' statement of ''def
start(files=ARGV, output = nil)''
>> (line: 73)
> 
> 
> Ahh, thank you, I applied the patch and uploaded the new archive
> 
>
http://digitale-wertschoepfung.de/artikel/gettext/using-gettext-with-rails.tgz
> 
> 
> Sascha
Hi Sascha,

I have a question for you: how doe you translate the error message RoR
generates, without losing them in an update of RoR


Tanx in Advance,

Mischa

> I have a question for you: how doe you translate the error message RoR
> generates, without losing them in an update of RoR
I suppose you mean the validation error messages? You can override 
those. For example I have this in a model:

validates_uniqueness_of :title, :message => _(''Every page in the
system
has to have a unique title. A page with this title already exists.'')

Sascha

Sascha Ebach wrote:
>> I have a question for you: how doe you translate the error message RoR
>> generates, without losing them in an update of RoR
> 
> 
> I suppose you mean the validation error messages? You can override
> those. For example I have this in a model:
> 
> validates_uniqueness_of :title, :message => _(''Every page in
the system
> has to have a unique title. A page with this title already
exists.'')
> 
> Sascha
Nope, I mean the messages generated by the error_messages_for method from the
module active_record_helper.
Those messages are like this: ''# errors prohibited this <model>
from being saved'', and they occur when invalid data is entered in a
form.

I came up with the following solution:

In my app/helpers/application_helper.rb I overruled  error_messages_for like
this:

#overrule error_messages_for from
actionpack-1.5.1/lib/action_view/helpers/active_record_helper.rb
module ActionView
    module Helpers
        module ActiveRecordHelper
            def error_messages_for(object_name, options = {})
                options = options.symbolize_keys
                object = instance_eval "@#{object_name}"
                unless object.errors.empty?
                    content_tag("div",
                        content_tag(
                            options[:header_tag] || "h2",
                            "#{object.errors.count} #{_(''error(s)
prohibited this'')} #{object_name.gsub("_", " ")}
#{_(''from being saved'')}"
                        ) +
                        content_tag("p", "#{_(''There
were problems with the following fields:'')}") +
                        content_tag("ul",
object.errors.full_messages.collect { |msg| content_tag("li",
"#{_(msg.split[0])} #{_(msg.split[1..-1].join(''
''))}") }),
                        "id" => options[:id] ||
"errorExplanation", "class" => options[:class] ||
"errorExplanation"
                    )
                end
            end
        end
    end
end


This does the trick just fine for me, maybe you should include in in your
module? Or should it be done in a different way?

Greetings,

Mischa.

Mischa Molhoek wrote:
> Sascha Ebach wrote:
> 
>>>I have a question for you: how doe you translate the error message
RoR
>>>generates, without losing them in an update of RoR
>>
>>
>>I suppose you mean the validation error messages? You can override
>>those. For example I have this in a model:
>>
>>validates_uniqueness_of :title, :message => _(''Every page in
the system
>>has to have a unique title. A page with this title already
exists.'')
>>
>>Sascha
> 
> 
> Nope, I mean the messages generated by the error_messages_for method from
the module active_record_helper.
> Those messages are like this: ''# errors prohibited this
<model> from being saved'', and they occur when invalid data is
entered in a form.
> 
> I came up with the following solution:
> 
> In my app/helpers/application_helper.rb I overruled  error_messages_for
like this:
> 
> #overrule error_messages_for from
actionpack-1.5.1/lib/action_view/helpers/active_record_helper.rb
> module ActionView
>     module Helpers
>         module ActiveRecordHelper
>             def error_messages_for(object_name, options = {})
>                 options = options.symbolize_keys
>                 object = instance_eval "@#{object_name}"
>                 unless object.errors.empty?
>                     content_tag("div",
>                         content_tag(
>                             options[:header_tag] || "h2",
>                             "#{object.errors.count}
#{_(''error(s) prohibited this'')}
#{object_name.gsub("_", " ")} #{_(''from being
saved'')}"
>                         ) +
>                         content_tag("p",
"#{_(''There were problems with the following
fields:'')}") +
>                         content_tag("ul",
object.errors.full_messages.collect { |msg| content_tag("li",
"#{_(msg.split[0])} #{_(msg.split[1..-1].join(''
''))}") }),
>                         "id" => options[:id] ||
"errorExplanation", "class" => options[:class] ||
"errorExplanation"
>                     )
>                 end
>             end
>         end
>     end
> end
> 
> 
> This does the trick just fine for me, maybe you should include in in your
module? Or should it be done in a different way?
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Mischa.
Hi Mischa,

I see. This should be done in a different way. From a translation 
perspective it should be possible to override any language string that 
is used in Rails. The problem with your solution is that you have to 
make sure that in future updates to Rails this class doesn''t change.
And
if it does you have to adapt it. I think this is worthy of a ticket. Do 
you want to add it to http://dev.rubyonrails.com/newticket ?

You could call it: "Provide a way to override any language relevant
string"

Sascha