Vorbis dev - Apr 2008 - base64 ALBUMART vorbiscomment (was Re: [ogg-dev] Ogg/Spots and Ogg/MNG)

Silvia,

This discussion has moved to vorbis-dev.  You may want to reply further there.

On 4/12/08, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Even with putting the picture into vorbiscomment, the software would
> need to be smart enough to uudecode the picture and display it. A url
> is much simpler I believe.
I had thought of this approach myself, too, and while yes, it's much
simpler, it presents serious obstacles that made me disconsider it.

For one, not everyone is 24h online.  And it's not just computers;
mobile phones and HW players would very rarely have any use for this
tag.

Nothing on the Web stays static.  Your image is working today, maybe
tomorrow too, but it has fewer chances of being there next week.
Unless it's a site specifically dedicated to offer covers (and even
then, they could break their own links occasionally), it's not a good
approach.

XSPF is doing the same approach.  It makes sense for XSPF (most of its
features are geared for online use), but no so much for a Vorbis file
which will stay static and usually offline.

-Ivo

Ivo,

I actually believe there is a use case for both cases.

For offline cases, having everything together is good.

For online cases, the URI and html approach has proven more useful.

It all burns down to player-support for either case. Somebody will
have to implement it for all players - which-ever is "it".

BTW: I don't this this discussion is just vorbis-specific but rather
one that should be had over all of Ogg.

Anyways .. happy to discuss anywhere.

Cheers,
Silvia.


On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Ivo Emanuel Gon?alves
<justivo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Silvia,
>
>  This discussion has moved to vorbis-dev.  You may want to reply further
there.
>
>  On 4/12/08, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > Even with putting the picture into vorbiscomment, the software would
>  > need to be smart enough to uudecode the picture and display it. A url
>  > is much simpler I believe.
>
>  I had thought of this approach myself, too, and while yes, it's much
>  simpler, it presents serious obstacles that made me disconsider it.
>
>  For one, not everyone is 24h online.  And it's not just computers;
>  mobile phones and HW players would very rarely have any use for this
>  tag.
>
>  Nothing on the Web stays static.  Your image is working today, maybe
>  tomorrow too, but it has fewer chances of being there next week.
>  Unless it's a site specifically dedicated to offer covers (and even
>  then, they could break their own links occasionally), it's not a good
>  approach.
>
>  XSPF is doing the same approach.  It makes sense for XSPF (most of its
>  features are geared for online use), but no so much for a Vorbis file
>  which will stay static and usually offline.
>
>  -Ivo
>