Just a quick note, realizing that many interested parties on vorbis-dev may not be subscribed to ogg-dev.. We're working out the details for an OggPCM codec, an uncompressed audio interchange format which will be used by the next generation Ogg framework. You can read what's taken place on this so far on the wiki and list: http://wiki.xiph.org/RawCodecs http://wiki.xiph.org/OggPCM http://wiki.xiph.org/Talk:OggPCM http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/ogg-dev/2005-November/ -- look for the OggPCM threads You can join in the discussion by either commenting on the Talk: page(s) or joining the ogg-dev mailing list. We're open to constructive feedback, as the capabilities (and limitations) will likely become a large part of Xiph's audio offerings within the Ogg framework. -- The recognition of individual possibility, to allow each to be what she and he can be, rests inherently upon the availability of knowledge; The perpetuation of ignorance is the beginning of slavery. from "Die Gedanken Sind Frei": Free Software and the Struggle for Free Thought by Eben Moglen, General council of the Free Software Foundation