-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I am going to encode almost 2000(!) CDs to OGG soon and I will use the tag RECORDNUMBER (as opposed to TRACKNUMBER) to indicate which record in a multi-cd-album it is. Maybe I'll also use the tag RECORDNAME if the record also has a name (eg Nine Inch Nails/Fragile's records are called Left and Right). Please make this tag (at least RECORDNUMBER) a standard one, it is VERY useful! Also, some kind of enforced standard on the format of DATE would be nice, so players don't have to try 20 differend way of parsing. (or how do you know if 01/03/07 means 2001-03-07, 2001-07-03 or 2003-07-01?) I think we should use the ISO standard dateformat YYYY-MM-DD. (I haven't RTFM on this one so excuse me if it already is!) Regards Per Wigren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7ho9EyjnjcyLO8HkRAhaUAKCkzkVUjByY/6ZRWugTeIDkLtCZlwCdH2w/ UQLDiJaJy5ubvlLpl5vHunI=IwAK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Hello Per, You wrote at 8/24/2001, 7:30 PM: Per> Also, some kind of enforced standard on the format of DATE would Per> be nice, so players don't have to try 20 differend way of Per> parsing. AFAIK the DATE tag, and other comment tags are meant to be read by humans, so players don't need to parse them. Additionally, forcing people to use one date format would be difficult to say the least. "Vorbis comments are simple key, value pairs." -- Cheers, _____________________________ SyP (_Szabolcs Péter PGP Key ID: _____________________)ICQ# 69968772 0x098AEC13 I'm not afraid of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens. (Woody Allen) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
I still think the DATE tag MUST be standardized! It doesn't take ANY programminglanguage many lines of code to get a localized output of a ISO datestring. Oggenc should refuse dates not in YYYY-MM-DD format, because if it doesn't when 1.0final is released (and we will get a LOT of more users), we will sit with an unfixable mess a few years from now! Who is controlling the standard tags right now? Monty? The authors of oggenc/ogg123/vorbiscomment? This must be WELL thought out before 1.0final! I'm thinking about using DISCNUMBER instead of RECORDNUMBER.. What do you people think is the best one? Regards Per Wigren> On 24 Aug 2001, at 21:46, Ingo Ralf Blum wrote: > > > > AFAIK the DATE tag, and other comment tags are meantto be read by> > > humans, so players don't need to parse them. [snip] > > > > So currently there is no possibility to reliably parseVorbis comments and use> > the contents programatically. > > How about an ISODATE tag? > -:-:- David K. Gasaway > -:-:- XNS : =David K Gasaway > -:-:- Email: dave@gasaway.org > -:-:- Web : dave.gasaway.org > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org'> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. Nosubject is needed.> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will beignored/filtered.>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
I'd probably use VOLUMENUMBER instead. Or better yet just include it in the title. Or, depending on how the tracks were listed, use the same album title, but increment the TRACKNUMBER across each of the disks. For the DATE header, we do suggest that you use the ISO format, or at least spell out the month (or the day of week) to remove ambiguity. But to demand standardized, machine parseable data misses the point; the spec clearly indicates the vorbis comment header is intended for simple human-readable data only. Our standard answer to this has been that we plan to have a structured format for rich (aka 'kitchen sink') metadata that's intended for machine comparison and searching. One of the reasons I've not been in a hurry with this is it's more a nicety for distribution. You can always use a catalog program with an external database to manage your music collection, and/or use the comment metadata to look up details in an internet db. Of course, if your application does make more sense with machinable fields in the comment header, go ahead and define your own tags. We might not think it's the best idea, but it's none of our business, and that's why the format is extensible. FWIW, -r --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-dev-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.