Hi: I'm working with an internet station. The station manager and I firmly believe in Ogg Vorbis. We already run transcodes of the 56k MP3 stream so modem listeners have the opportunity to hear stereo. We'd like to change our primary stream to Vorbis ultimately, but that will involve overcoming a number of challenges, not the least of which will be getting all the broadcasters to change software. before we cross that bridge, we need to be sure that most listeners will be able to benefit. Thanks to Illiminable, we have a set of Directshow filters which seem to work well for Windows Media Player. Our last big concern is Realplayer and I have to admit to a bit of confusion here. I don't use Windows, but the station manager has Realplayer 10.5 which is apparently pretty recent and apparently is powered by Helix technology or whatever it is it says. But it doesn't want to play our stream, or any local Vorbis files. Am I wrong in thinking that the Helix Vorbis plugin was a done deal? I was under the impression that the Helixplayer for LInux and also Symbian could play Ogg Vorbis, so should Realplayer for Windows be able to or not, and if not, how far away is this? Geoff.
> before we cross that bridge, we need to be sure that most listeners will > be able to benefit. Thanks to Illiminable, we have a set of Directshow > filters which seem to work well for Windows Media Player. Our last big > concern is Realplayer and I have to admit to a bit of confusion here. >Just one thing i should point out from my side right now... is that my codecs currently can't handle chained multiplexing... ie basically multiple files stuck together rather than merged server side into one continuous stream. I've either got to do it the hacky way, so that it will work for homogenous chains... which is easy... or do it properly, so it can take arbitrary chains... ie when a theora file is chained to a vorbis file... unfortunately, that's extremely difficult. Zen.
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 11:07:27PM +1000, Geoff Shang wrote:> Hi: > > I'm working with an internet station. The station manager and I firmly > believe in Ogg Vorbis. We already run transcodes of the 56k MP3 stream so > modem listeners have the opportunity to hear stereo. We'd like to change > our primary stream to Vorbis ultimately, but that will involve overcoming > a number of challenges, not the least of which will be getting all the > broadcasters to change software. > > before we cross that bridge, we need to be sure that most listeners will > be able to benefit. Thanks to Illiminable, we have a set of Directshow > filters which seem to work well for Windows Media Player. Our last big > concern is Realplayer and I have to admit to a bit of confusion here. > > I don't use Windows, but the station manager has Realplayer 10.5 which is > apparently pretty recent and apparently is powered by Helix technology or > whatever it is it says. But it doesn't want to play our stream, or any > local Vorbis files. Am I wrong in thinking that the Helix Vorbis plugin > was a done deal? I was under the impression that the Helixplayer for > LInux and also Symbian could play Ogg Vorbis, so should Realplayer for > Windows be able to or not, and if not, how far away is this?The RealPlayer for Windows does not play Vorbis and Theora out of the box at this time. You can download the plugins from the Helix site, but they currently are not shipped with the RealPlayer installer. The plugins do ship with the Linux Helix player and Symbian doesn't support Vorbis or Theora yet. It isn't clear to me when Vorbis and Theora will ship with the Windows installer. I'm still trying to work on making that happen here at Real. Aaron> > Geoff. > _______________________________________________ > Vorbis mailing list > Vorbis@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/vorbis >
Hi Aaron: Aaron Colwell wrote:> The RealPlayer for Windows does not play Vorbis and Theora out of the box at > this time. You can download the plugins from the Helix site, but they > currently are not shipped with the RealPlayer installer.Oh right. Can you tell me specifically where on the Helix site, or am I the only one who finds that place confusing? The other thing is that, when the player failed to play the files, it apparently tried to get the required plugin from the web and also failed. Can this be made to work? It would be the least fuss way to go at least until the plugin begins to ship with the player. Thanks, Geoff.
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:07:27 +1000, Geoff Shang wrote:> Hi: > > I'm working with an internet station. The station manager and I firmly > believe in Ogg Vorbis. We already run transcodes of the 56k MP3 stream so > modem listeners have the opportunity to hear stereo. We'd like to change > our primary stream to Vorbis ultimately, but that will involve overcoming > a number of challenges, not the least of which will be getting all the > broadcasters to change software. > > before we cross that bridge, we need to be sure that most listeners will > be able to benefit. Thanks to Illiminable, we have a set of Directshow > filters which seem to work well for Windows Media Player. Our last big > concern is Realplayer and I have to admit to a bit of confusion here. > > I don't use Windows, but the station manager has Realplayer 10.5 which is > apparently pretty recent and apparently is powered by Helix technology or > whatever it is it says. But it doesn't want to play our stream, or any > local Vorbis files. Am I wrong in thinking that the Helix Vorbis plugin > was a done deal? I was under the impression that the Helixplayer for > LInux and also Symbian could play Ogg Vorbis, so should Realplayer for > Windows be able to or not, and if not, how far away is this? > > Geoff.I've just been playing an ogg file on my old version of real one, so it obviously is supported, unless they have dropped it again since then. winamp works OK with ogg as well.