Robert Cringely had an interesting item in his 2004 predictions: 12) Wal-Mart's entry into the music download business changes everything, and will undoubtedly take the leadership away from Apple. This wouldn't bother Apple if Wal-Mart would support its file standards so Wal-Mart music can play on iPods, but that won't happen. In order to compete for what really counts (iPod sales, not music downloads), Apple MIGHT start to support other file formats. No guarantee on that. (http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040101.html) Looks like a good opportunity for the open media crowd, and vorbis in particular. While Walmart are evil, they're also cheap, so they're bound to like a royalty free codec if they can get some company to produce cheap players. John --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.