Happy New Year from the Xiphophorus Team. It took longer than we thought, but I think everyone will agree this is our best release yet. With drastic quality improvements and new bitrate management features, this release brings us one step closer to 1.0. Along with all the lovely VBR modes you are used to, you now have millions more. oggenc's quality settings are 0-10 in increments of .0000001 or so. Also, -b will do ABR (average bitrate), and -M will specify the maximum bitrate allowed (-m the minimum). You can use this to emulate CBR (the threshold for these values is configurable in the libs and defaults to 2s). Bitrate management only works for stereo 44.1kHz 16bit files. VBR modes are tuned for 44.1kHz but will work on any input. The win32 build system was drastically overhauled by Chris Wolf, and is a lot better. <p>RC4 is already well underway and will feature a complete set of modes for 22.05kHz, etc, bitrate management for all inputs, and much improved lower bitrate quality (although this has already improved quite a bit in RC3!). <p>Should you wish to support our efforts financially towards RC4 and 1.0, please send your donations via PayPal to donate@xiph.org. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On 2001-12-31, Jack Moffitt wrote:> Happy New Year from the Xiphophorus Team. >This makes it really happy! A tiny doc bug: In oggenc's help: ... If multiple input files are given, then multiple instances of the previous five arguments will be used, in the order they are given. If fewer titles are ... That should be "previous six" I think (genre added?). -- Beni Cherniavsky <cben@tx.technion.ac.il> (also scben@t2 in Technion) Happy new 2 (mod 100). <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
I see that a new v-comment.html is distributed (added PERFORMER, changed
ARTIST to be the one usually considered repsonsible (overloaded), added
CONTACT, and DISCID (freedb)).
The online http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html is still the
old one though.
Unrelated one: in oggdrop, the "save quality" menu item is quite
unintuitive, "set quality" would be better. Also showing the selected
value as a number (better yet make editable as a number) would be good.
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(also scben@t2 in Technion)
Happy new 2 (mod 100).
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Hi Jack: Excellent work, guys! Can't wait to test drive this baby! Couple of documentation issues: the libao/READMe says it's version 0.8.0 (or 0.80, can't remember) instead of 0.8.2 (or 0.82, whichever it is). The vorbis-tools READMe mentions ogg somewhere in the install instructions, where it ought to say vorbis-tools. Also, nowhere did I see mention that we now need libcurl in order to compile ogg123. For those who want to know, you can reach the curl stuff by going to curl.sourceforge.net. Geoff. <p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:40:06 -0700 Jack Moffitt <jack@xiph.org> wrote:> Happy New Year from the Xiphophorus Team. > > It took longer than we thought, but I think everyone will agree this is > our best release yet.Thank you! An highly-appreciated gift! -- (o< //\ GnuPGid: B8B68C17 V_/_ pinguino 186198 @ http://counter.li.org <p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Thanks for the new RC3 - I hope you all didn't work too hard over Christmas ;) I've updated my Cool Edit filter & audio player accordingly. -- Jimbo http://www.player2001.com <p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Jack Moffitt wrote:> Bitrate management only works for stereo 44.1kHz 16bit files. VBR modes > are tuned for 44.1kHz but will work on any input.So what about encoding mono (i.e. truly single-channel) 16-bit 44.1 kHz .wav files? If I want such a file to have the same quality as a stereo file, do I use the same -q value, or cut it by half, or what? Btw, I observe that RC3 oggenc default to -q 3.0 if no quality or ABR value is specified. Why is this the default? Is it meant to be "good enough for the average listener on average equipment", or "similar in size or quality to a LAME-encoded 128kBs MP3 file"? Craig --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Jack Moffitt wrote:> RC4 is already well underway and will feature a complete set of modes > for 22.05kHz, etc, bitrate management for all inputs, and much improved > lower bitrate quality (although this has already improved quite a bit in > RC3!).One more question... With the focus for RC4, according to the above, being on improved support for low bitrates and source material other than stereo 16-bit 44.1 kHz, would it be reasonable at this point (subject to change, of course) to think that RC4 or 1.0 will likely _not_ feature significant improvements to the encoding of stereo 16-bit 44.1 kHz data at -q 3 or better? Or to put it in more practical terms, if I encode my whole CD library with RC3 at -q 3 or better (I'm preparing for some ear tests with -q 3 and -q 5 at the moment), is there likely to be much advantage to doing it all over again with RC4 or 1.0? I realize this is kind of an impossible question, since we don't know what bugs remain to be found in RC3, or what new ideas Monty may come up with before 1.0 ships, but an answer in terms of what is currently anticipated would be helpful. Thanks, Craig --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.