Hi. When can we expect the next beta version of Vorbis encoder (with some tagging & encoding options I hope)? Also, today I tested MPEG+ encoder which you can download from http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/73884/mppenc.zip (win encoder) http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/73884/in_mpp.zip (winamp plug-in) http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/73884/mppdec.zip (win decoder) It sounds great! Using VBR it gives files with bitrate between 128-160kbps with 18kHz bandwidth and they are as good as AAC (Liquid Audio), maybe even slightly better!! No pre-echo and good high-frequency handling. And decoding is pretty fast too (my impression is that it is fast as mp3 decoding is), though winamp plug-in isn't quite stable. My only objection for this encoder is that it adds a small amount of silence to the decoded wav (it looks like Vorbis is the only lossy encoder out there that has this problem solved). The encoder/decoder is free to use, but it is copyrighted by the author (Andree Buschmann) and there is only source code for the decoder. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
> Hi. > > When can we expect the next beta version of Vorbis encoder (with some > tagging & encoding options I hope)?Vorbize has always been able to tag, and there are now patches to OggLAME to do tagging. All the plugins can hadle the tags. Second BETA is slated for this weekend, along with VBR 96, 128, 160, 192, 256kbps stereo modes. 1.0 final (with CBR) is optimisitcally scheduled for the week before LinuxExpo.> Also, today I tested MPEG+ encoder which you can download from > http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/73884/mppenc.zip (win encoder) > http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/73884/in_mpp.zip (winamp plug-in) > http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/73884/mppdec.zip (win decoder) > It sounds great! Using VBR it gives files with bitrate between 128-160kbps > with 18kHz bandwidth and they are as good as AAC (Liquid Audio), maybe even > slightly better!! No pre-echo and good high-frequency handling. And decoding > is pretty fast too (my impression is that it is fast as mp3 decoding is), > though winamp plug-in isn't quite stable. My only objection for this encoder > is that it adds a small amount of silence to the decoded wav (it looks like > Vorbis is the only lossy encoder out there that has this problem solved). > The encoder/decoder is free to use, but it is copyrighted by the author > (Andree Buschmann) and there is only source code for the decoder.*shrug* Then it's no improvement over the current mp3 situation. Is it filterbank based? If so, we're even worse off as there's no encoder source and it's still infringing FhG's patents. Note that Vorbis would be just as fast as mp3 in decode if we had an iMDCT that was as fast as what other codecs are using. I wrote the one in Vorbis many years ago when there was no source available for such a beast and it's not particualrly fast. Monty --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Oh, actually, to squash a particular misconception, I think I'll include an 'insane' mode at around 350kpbs as well ;-) Monty --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
> > When can we expect the next beta version of Vorbis encoder (with some > > tagging & encoding options I hope)? > >Vorbize has always been able to tag, and there are now patches to OggLAME >to >do tagging. All the plugins can hadle the tags.CD-DA X-Tractor has been able to tag as well, if you're working with Windoze. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.