tracking this thing down -- and it''s why you''re still getting the problem after we''ve known about it for so long. If you''ve got good C programming skills and have the time to hunt this down, I''ve got some thoughts on ways you could go about trying to find the root cause of the bug, but let me warn you that the Ruby source code is... interesting, and not for the faint-hearted. - Matt -- MySQL seems to be the Windows of the database world. Broken, underspecced, and mainly only popular due to inertia and people who don''t really know what they''re doing. -- Peter Corlett, in the Monastery