at the risk of picking at that scab a bit longer, i'm going to toss out a comment regarding people still waiting for the public availability of centos 5.4. here: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-October/083743.html we read: "The last status (from twitter) is 2 days old with the '5.4 is baked! centos internal network will start syncing up today. Release ~ soon!'. Any ETA?" followed by the response: "Just relax and wait, this is a _volunteer_ based project. Want a release date? Go pay for RHEL." not to put too find a point on it, but that reply is more than a bit dickish. it doesn't *matter* if it's a volunteer project. as i see this, this is turning into an issue of credibility. once someone posts that the 5.4 release is allegedly "baked" and syncing is beginning, then it's not unreasonable that people will start getting anxious to see it hit the mirrors. and as the days go by, it's not unreasonable for those people to start wondering what the heck is going on. again, whether people are being paid to do any of this work is not relevant. it's important, from the perspective of reputation, that everyone see the centos project as being efficiently and competently run, and making what *appears* to be an announcement of completion and the beginning of syncing servers, followed by days of awkward silence and increasingly defensive rhetoric, is not the way to do it. it just looks bad. rday -- =======================================================================Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday ========================================================================
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday at crashcourse.ca> wrote:> ?again, whether people are being paid to do any of this work is not > relevant. ?it's important, from the perspective of reputation, that > everyone see the centos project as being efficiently and competently > run, and making what *appears* to be an announcement of completion and > the beginning of syncing servers, followed by days of awkward silence > and increasingly defensive rhetoric, is not the way to do it. ?it just > looks bad.Agreed. The best policy would be to simply say -- "It'll be done when it's done." Of course they tried that originally, and that's wasn't "acceptable" either. Here's the way I'm going to take care of the "problem." Figure eight weeks out for CentOS from the time Red Hat is released. If it gets done quicker than that, I've got a bonus.! -- RonB -- Using CentOS 5.3
amusingly, only 41 minutes ago, this from centos twitter: "we ran into a few issues on internal centos.org machines - all resolved now :) we should start seeding to external mirrors shortly" and *that's* what i was talking about -- we just want to be kept informed. thanks. rday -- =======================================================================Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday ========================================================================
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:> > at the risk of picking at that scab a bit longer, i'm going to toss > out a comment regarding people still waiting for the public > availability of centos 5.4. > > here: > > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-October/083743.htmlAbout ten minutes after your email, I got one from our local computer shop. "Windows 7 coming soon!!!" no date. no reason. Just churn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Wildman, CISSP, RHCE jim at rossberry.com http://www.rossberry.com "Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." Thomas Paine
I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available from some mirrors.
>> I am burning the DVD ISO image to disk right now. It is available from >> some mirrors. >which are mostly incomplete... maybe some isos are ok but even thecentos.org>machines are not yet in sync... >I would strongly suggest that you wait for the actual announcements, butymmv. This leads me to a question: If I use BitTorrent to download the DVD image from tracker.centos.org, I assume the file has to be complete or could it still be missing something? Thanks, Neil -- Neil Aggarwal, (281)846-8957, www.JAMMConsulting.com Will your e-commerce site go offline if you have a DB server failure, fiber cut, flood, fire, or other disaster? If so, ask about our geographically redundant database system.