Pkg xen devel - Jun 2007 - Xen 3.1 in unstable?

Hi,
I just happen to see that there are no Xen 3.1 packages in unstable as 
of yet - even if 3.1 is released since a while now. There are the 
Packages in Ralph's apt repository, but I wonder why there are no newer 
packages yet.

This shouldn't be criticism, but two questions come up:

1) Is the reason that there are no newer packages that you need some 
more help? Then I might be able to do something (depending on the area 
in which help is needed).

2) I talked with Ewan Mellor from XenSource at the Xen summit this 
spring. He(as a Debian user) also wondered why there where no newer Xen 
packages in unstable. In case there are some things needed or useful to 
be done on the Xen upstream side to help ease packaging for Debian, he'd 
be very interested to know and try to add necessary changes.
So, if there is something, one could contact him and ask him for 
help/cooperation. If you don't have the time, I'd forward stuff you let 
me know to him, or ask him he could subscribe to this list to ease 
discussion.


just my 2 cents,
Henning

2007/6/16, Henning Sprang <henning_sprang at
gmx.de>:
> Hi,
> I just happen to see that there are no Xen 3.1 packages in unstable as
> of yet - even if 3.1 is released since a while now. There are the
> Packages in Ralph's apt repository, but I wonder why there are no newer
> packages yet.
>
> This shouldn't be criticism, but two questions come up:
>
> 1) Is the reason that there are no newer packages that you need some
> more help? Then I might be able to do something (depending on the area
> in which help is needed).
>
> 2) I talked with Ewan Mellor from XenSource at the Xen summit this
> spring. He(as a Debian user) also wondered why there where no newer Xen
> packages in unstable. In case there are some things needed or useful to
> be done on the Xen upstream side to help ease packaging for Debian,
he'd
> be very interested to know and try to add necessary changes.
> So, if there is something, one could contact him and ask him for
> help/cooperation. If you don't have the time, I'd forward stuff you
let
> me know to him, or ask him he could subscribe to this list to ease
> discussion.
>
>
> just my 2 cents,
> Henning
>
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Hi,
I think that these are the problems:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=418783
"2.6.20 is dropped from the archive and no xen support exists in newer
kernels."
http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2007-06/msg00302.html
"My guess (and it's purely a guess) is that nobody's stepped up to
port the
Xen patches to kernels newer than 2.6.20, and hence "no xen support exists
in newer kernels".  Debian is taking a fairly hard-line approach to kernel
versions these days -- no more having hundreds of different kernel versions
and build options in the stable release (at one point, an entire CD's worth
of various kernel packages were in the release).

Now, you get one kernel source that covers all architectures and options,
and the various different kernels get built out of that.  If your pet
out-of-lkml-tree patch doesn't apply to the new kernel source, and
nobody's
willing to put the resources into making it work again, then out it goes.
It's a pest, but the other options were just untenable, from a stable
release maintenance point of view."

Any news about this?
Regards,

-- 
Marco Crociani - Tyrael
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Is there some news?
I need a 2.6.21 (sata problem with 2.6.18, 2.6.20) on Etch (amd64).
Also Xen 3.1 would be nice.
What have I to do and what is the best way to do it?
Take kernel source from unstable, patching it with xen, compile .deb
and install?

Thanks,

2007/6/17, Matthew Palmer <mpalmer at debian.org>:
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 02:24:02PM +0200, Marco Crociani - Tyrael wrote:
> > 2007/6/16, Henning Sprang <henning_sprang at gmx.de>:
> > > I just happen to see that there are no Xen 3.1 packages in
unstable as
> > > of yet - even if 3.1 is released since a while now. There are the
> > > Packages in Ralph's apt repository, but I wonder why there
are no newer
> > > packages yet.
> >
> > I think that these are the problems:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=418783
> > "2.6.20 is dropped from the archive and no xen support exists in
newer
> > kernels."
> >
http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2007-06/msg00302.html
> > "My guess (and it's purely a guess) is that nobody's
stepped up to port the
> > Xen patches to kernels newer than 2.6.20, and hence "no xen
support exists
> > in newer kernels".  Debian is taking a fairly hard-line approach
to kernel
> > versions these days -- no more having hundreds of different kernel
versions
> > and build options in the stable release (at one point, an entire
CD's worth
> > of various kernel packages were in the release).
>
> Since it was me that wrote that on xen-users, I feel I should point out
that
> I'm not involved in packaging Xen for Debian, and really, really
don't speak
> for the Xen packaging team when it comes to why 3.1 packages aren't
out.
> I'm just saying this in case anyone misinterprets my words above as
being
> some sort of official position statement or anything.
>
> - Matt
>
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On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 01:28:26PM +0200, Marco Crociani - Tyrael wrote:

Hi!
> Is there some news?
> I need a 2.6.21 (sata problem with 2.6.18, 2.6.20) on Etch (amd64).
> Also Xen 3.1 would be nice.
> What have I to do and what is the best way to do it?
> Take kernel source from unstable, patching it with xen, compile .deb
> and install?
> 
There is no such thing as a 2.6.21 xen patch for now... Sorry! That cannot be
done! (unless you plan to port it yourself...)

Sorry!

Guido